Well the future is heading your way, sounds like it may take up to 5 years
or so, but you best look after your CDs in the meantime. Over here music
downloads out sell physical CDs and once Apple add the ability to
re-download music you have already bought, the same way you can with apps,
then I will be going 100% download too.
On 17 May 2011, at 14:34, brandt wrote:
> Yes, but the access is shabby, mostly still GPRS.
>
> Warm regards,
>
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>
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore"
> <moor...@blueyonder.co.uk>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
>
>
> Right, 4G is wireless mobile broadband for your phone etc. Do you have
> 3G mobile network?
> On 17 May 2011, at 14:29, brandt wrote:
>
>> Never even heard of 4g, let alone seen any plans. The fastest available
>> broadband here is 4 mB. They are currently bringing in 10 MB some
>> places.
>>
>> Warm regards,
>>
>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>
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>> tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore"
>> <moor...@blueyonder.co.uk>
>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
>>
>>
>> Wrong, I am British :) I am sure South Africa will catch up in time.
>> After all it was not so long ago that all those CD devices you were
>> talking about were cassette.
>>
>> In the UK broadband speeds are up to 100mb via cable and they are
>> currently testing 200mb. It is nothing compared to South Korea though
>> who have the fastest broadband in the world with speeds of 1G+
>>
>> Are there any plans to roll out 4G mobile networks in South Africa? UK
>> have lagged on this one, we won't see our first until 2013 .
>> On 17 May 2011, at 14:17, brandt wrote:
>>
>>> I can see you are an american, thus thinking like an american with
>>> high spead, uncapped broadband internet access. Places like South
>>> Africa whare I live and even New Zealand still implements data caps.
>>> Thus downloading a 3 or 4 gig file on a whim ain't gonna happen.
>>>
>>> Warm regards,
>>>
>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>
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>>> tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3
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>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore"
>>> <moor...@blueyonder.co.uk>
>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
>>>
>>>
>>> Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of
>>> stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you
>>> to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft
>>> are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and
>>> provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will
>>> hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too
>>> much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and
>>> you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too.
>>>
>>> you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century.
>>> On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the
>>>> non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the
>>>> stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD
>>>> players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by
>>>> the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by
>>>> the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for
>>>> days.
>>>>
>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>
>>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>>
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>>>> tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3
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>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore"
>>>> <moor...@blueyonder.co.uk>
>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook
>>>> air?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or
>>>> desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being
>>>> able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and
>>>> manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead.
>>>> On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 50000 CDs
>>>>> verses 200000 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the
>>>>> research and find out what it costs to produce 1000000 thumb drives,
>>>>> pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and
>>>>> shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your
>>>>> argument is week. Try again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>>>
>>>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can
>>>>> tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at
>>>>> 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info
>>>>>
>>>>> Contact me:
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>>>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore"
>>>>> <moor...@blueyonder.co.uk>
>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook
>>>>> air?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously
>>>>> used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb
>>>>> drive is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being
>>>>> able to be transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So
>>>>> maybe it would be not as expensive as you think.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view,
>>>>>> what's cheeper, 1000000 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 1000000
>>>>>> copys of the same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have
>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can
>>>>>> tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at
>>>>>> 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Contact me:
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>>>>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Isaac Obie"
>>>>>> <coac...@verizon.net>
>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook
>>>>>> air?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Brandt,
>>>>>>> I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive.
>>>>>>> there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the
>>>>>>> two units. I use a thumbdrive for this.
>>>>>>> I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and
>>>>>>> macbook. So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot
>>>>>>> of time debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and
>>>>>>> this is the simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper
>>>>>>> than putting a single file on a cd to transfer it.
>>>>>>> Isaac
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "brandt"
>>>>>>> <brandt.steenk...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook
>>>>>>> air?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for
>>>>>>>> now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you
>>>>>>>> can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday
>>>>>>>> afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Contact me:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007
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>>>>>>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell"
>>>>>>>> <scottn3...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook
>>>>>>>> air?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external
>>>>>>>> drive. In fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that
>>>>>>>> contains the OS.
>>>>>>>> On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will
>>>>>>>>> you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now,
>>>>>>>>> you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't
>>>>>>>>> have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're
>>>>>>>>> truely screwed!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you
>>>>>>>>> can tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday
>>>>>>>>> afternoon at 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Contact me:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007
>>>>>>>>> MSN: brandt...@live.com
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>>>>>>>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell"
>>>>>>>>> <scottn3...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or
>>>>>>>>> macbook air?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what
>>>>>>>>> form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is
>>>>>>>>> generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone
>>>>>>>>> in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their
>>>>>>>>> customers.
>>>>>>>>> Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always
>>>>>>>>> said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being
>>>>>>>>> hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and
>>>>>>>>> always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies
>>>>>>>>> as well as individuals.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So what?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will
>>>>>>>>>> always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from
>>>>>>>>>> using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already
>>>>>>>>>> passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>>>>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>>>>>>>>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey. Ricardo said he following statement.
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We
>>>>>>>>>>> have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain
>>>>>>>>>>> media content. You want an app, just download it from the web
>>>>>>>>>>> or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all
>>>>>>>>>>> macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives.
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or
>>>>>>>>>>> DVD's just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but
>>>>>>>>>>> if you heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's
>>>>>>>>>>> Playstation Network has been down for the past month. As it
>>>>>>>>>>> was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because
>>>>>>>>>>> the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the
>>>>>>>>>>> network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for
>>>>>>>>>>> digital distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be surprised
>>>>>>>>>>> if someone hacks into Itunes or the App Store.
>>>>>>>>>>> Shawn
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