Just for accuracy. You do get what is called 4G in other countries in South Africa., although we don't call it that . Three service providers have 42 megabit services. The vodacom network has very good coverage. Only problem here is that it is still very expensive.
Chris Moore wrote: > Well the future is heading your way, sounds like it may take up to 5 years or > so, but you best look after your CDs in the meantime. Over here music > downloads out sell physical CDs and once Apple add the ability to > re-download music you have already bought, the same way you can with apps, > then I will be going 100% download too. > On 17 May 2011, at 14:34, brandt wrote: > > > Yes, but the access is shabby, mostly still GPRS. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Brandt Steenkamp > > > > If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune in > > to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by > > going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > > > > Contact me: > > > > Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > > MSN: brandt...@live.com > > Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > > Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore" <moor...@blueyonder.co.uk> > > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:34 PM > > Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > > > > > > Right, 4G is wireless mobile broadband for your phone etc. Do you have 3G > > mobile network? > > On 17 May 2011, at 14:29, brandt wrote: > > > >> Never even heard of 4g, let alone seen any plans. The fastest available > >> broadband here is 4 mB. They are currently bringing in 10 MB some places. > >> > >> Warm regards, > >> > >> Brandt Steenkamp > >> > >> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune > >> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by > >> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > >> > >> Contact me: > >> > >> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > >> MSN: brandt...@live.com > >> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > >> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore" <moor...@blueyonder.co.uk> > >> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:23 PM > >> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > >> > >> > >> Wrong, I am British :) I am sure South Africa will catch up in time. > >> After all it was not so long ago that all those CD devices you were > >> talking about were cassette. > >> > >> In the UK broadband speeds are up to 100mb via cable and they are > >> currently testing 200mb. It is nothing compared to South Korea though who > >> have the fastest broadband in the world with speeds of 1G+ > >> > >> Are there any plans to roll out 4G mobile networks in South Africa? UK > >> have lagged on this one, we won't see our first until 2013 . > >> On 17 May 2011, at 14:17, brandt wrote: > >> > >>> I can see you are an american, thus thinking like an american with high > >>> spead, uncapped broadband internet access. Places like South Africa whare > >>> I live and even New Zealand still implements data caps. Thus downloading > >>> a 3 or 4 gig file on a whim ain't gonna happen. > >>> > >>> Warm regards, > >>> > >>> Brandt Steenkamp > >>> > >>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune > >>> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC > >>> by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > >>> > >>> Contact me: > >>> > >>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > >>> MSN: brandt...@live.com > >>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > >>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore" > >>> <moor...@blueyonder.co.uk> > >>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:11 PM > >>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > >>> > >>> > >>> Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo > >>> systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop > >>> your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking > >>> at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide > >>> content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut > >>> down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your > >>> car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get > >>> MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too. > >>> > >>> you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century. > >>> On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote: > >>> > >>>> Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non > >>>> computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo > >>>> in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in > >>>> the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, > >>>> the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I > >>>> work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days. > >>>> > >>>> Warm regards, > >>>> > >>>> Brandt Steenkamp > >>>> > >>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune > >>>> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC > >>>> by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > >>>> > >>>> Contact me: > >>>> > >>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > >>>> MSN: brandt...@live.com > >>>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > >>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore" > >>>> <moor...@blueyonder.co.uk> > >>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM > >>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop > >>>> with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be > >>>> made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept > >>>> it, the spinning disc is dead. > >>>> On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 50000 CDs verses > >>>>> 200000 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and > >>>>> find out what it costs to produce 1000000 thumb drives, pack them in > >>>>> the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, > >>>>> verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try > >>>>> again. > >>>>> > >>>>> Warm regards, > >>>>> > >>>>> Brandt Steenkamp > >>>>> > >>>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can > >>>>> tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 > >>>>> PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > >>>>> > >>>>> Contact me: > >>>>> > >>>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > >>>>> MSN: brandt...@live.com > >>>>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > >>>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore" > >>>>> <moor...@blueyonder.co.uk> > >>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM > >>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously > >>>>> used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive > >>>>> is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be > >>>>> transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would > >>>>> be not as expensive as you think. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's > >>>>>> cheeper, 1000000 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 1000000 copys of the > >>>>>> same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Warm regards, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can > >>>>>> tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 > >>>>>> PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Contact me: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > >>>>>> MSN: brandt...@live.com > >>>>>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > >>>>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Isaac Obie" <coac...@verizon.net> > >>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM > >>>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hello Brandt, > >>>>>>> I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's > >>>>>>> a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. > >>>>>>> I use a thumbdrive for this. > >>>>>>> I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and > >>>>>>> macbook. So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of > >>>>>>> time debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this > >>>>>>> is the simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than > >>>>>>> putting a single file on a cd to transfer it. > >>>>>>> Isaac > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "brandt" > >>>>>>> <brandt.steenk...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for > >>>>>>>> now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Warm regards, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can > >>>>>>>> tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at > >>>>>>>> 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Contact me: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > >>>>>>>> MSN: brandt...@live.com > >>>>>>>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell" > >>>>>>>> <scottn3...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook > >>>>>>>> air? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. > >>>>>>>> In fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains > >>>>>>>> the OS. > >>>>>>>> On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you > >>>>>>>>> do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can > >>>>>>>>> install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that > >>>>>>>>> anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed! > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Warm regards, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can > >>>>>>>>> tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at > >>>>>>>>> 3 PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Contact me: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > >>>>>>>>> MSN: brandt...@live.com > >>>>>>>>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp > >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell" > >>>>>>>>> <scottn3...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook > >>>>>>>>> air? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form > >>>>>>>>> of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more > >>>>>>>>> secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction > >>>>>>>>> if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. > >>>>>>>>> Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always > >>>>>>>>> said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being > >>>>>>>>> hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always > >>>>>>>>> watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as > >>>>>>>>> individuals. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> So what? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will > >>>>>>>>>> always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using > >>>>>>>>>> credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD > >>>>>>>>>> sales. So, the writing is already on the wall. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker > >>>>>>>>>> rwalker...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > >>>>>>>>>> www.mobileaccess.org > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hey. Ricardo said he following statement. > >>>>>>>>>>> Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We > >>>>>>>>>>> have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media > >>>>>>>>>>> content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the > >>>>>>>>>>> Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks > >>>>>>>>>>> follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. > >>>>>>>>>>> I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's > >>>>>>>>>>> just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you > >>>>>>>>>>> heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network > >>>>>>>>>>> has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were > >>>>>>>>>>> concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down > >>>>>>>>>>> is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, > >>>>>>>>>>> it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take > >>>>>>>>>>> effect. 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