Hi Chris,
Very odd.  cmd-option-q works consistently for me in Safari.  As a test, I did 
a GOogle search and then used the combination.  My homepage came back when I 
reopened the program, not the search results.
Best,
Zack.
On Jul 24, 2011, at 1:03 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

> Totally agree about the item chooser.
> 
> It's almost a dealbreaker for me to go back to SL.  I'm being patient, though 
> I don't know why.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Roy" <droy1...@gmail.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 10:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Totally bizarre finding with Safari 5.1 in Lion
> 
> 
> THERE WAS AN ANSWER POSTED EARLIER, YOU HAVE 2 CHOICES.
> 
> 1.  WHEN QUITTING THE APPLICATION HIT OPTION ALONG WITH COMMAND-Q AND IT WILL 
> GO BACK TO THE DEFAULT STATE.
> 
> 2.  UNDER THE GENERAL TAB OF SYSTEM PREFERENCES, THERE IS A CHECKBOX TO 
> TOGGLE THE BEHAVIOR OF PREVIOUS WINDOWS OPENING WHEN YOU RESTART AN APP.
> 
> MY BIGGEST ISSUE NOW IS WITH THE ITEM CHOOSER WHICH I HAVE GROWN TO LOVE AND 
> IS COMPLETELY UNRELIABLE UNDER LION.
> 
> 
> On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Shen wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> Yes, you and I are having the same issue. Whenever I open Safari, I prefer 
>> to have only my hope page open. But for some reason, it is now opening all 
>> the pages I had open the last time I quite Safari. As far as I can find, 
>> there is no setting to change that. The other little quirk I have is 
>> whenever a page is done loading, VoiceOver doesn't always put me in the html 
>> content and start interacting with it. I have to press VO-Shift-Down Arrow 
>> to start interacting with it. The second issue is not that bad, but just a 
>> little annoying.
>> I sure would like to know if I can get Safari to open only my home page and 
>> not all the tabs and windows I had open the last time before quitting Safari.
>> 
>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 3:52 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>> 
>>> I wholeheartedly agree with Chris here. Calm down, folks. If there's an 
>>> issue, first check if there's a solution or workaround for the thing, if 
>>> not, ask a question here, after the frustration has settled, and if that 
>>> doesn't help, write a polite letter to Apples Accessibility team. I've got 
>>> a couple issues i'm investigating now, one of them are on-topic here, and 
>>> it's about how i go about having Safari not to open all the pages i had up 
>>> last every time i open a new page. It makes sense when first starting 
>>> Safari directly, but if there's a page i want to read, i don't want to have 
>>> to close all the other pages that pop up and taking focus away from the 
>>> page i want to read. Surely there must be a setting somewhere, only i can't 
>>> find it.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>> 23 jul 2011 kl. 03:39 skrev Chris Westbrook:
>>> 
>>>> And in case anyone actually cares, this has nothing to do with vo or lion. 
>>>>  The reason Jaws won't download on safari is that by default, freedom 
>>>> scientific offers direct ftp links to their downloads and safari 
>>>> apparently can't handle direct ftp links.  If you REALLY want to download 
>>>> Jaws from a mac, FS offers a page for http downloads.  Frankly, the whole 
>>>> item chooser thing really doesn't bother me much as the web roder has 
>>>> always worked for me and that is for the web.  I am glad I upgraded, and 
>>>> I'm even getting used to the new mail.  I think we all just need to calm 
>>>> down a bit.  As far as apple not caring, just because they don't talk to 
>>>> us doesn't mean they don't care.  They don't talk to anyone, it's as 
>>>> simple as that.  Missy, I really hope you get your power situation 
>>>> straightened out, but I don't think that is a lion issue either.  Calm 
>>>> down everyone.  :)
>>>> Chris Westbrook
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi guys.
>>>>> Just to add a little to what Carolyn said, it's been two days since Lion 
>>>>> came out so don't expect these problems to just magically go away.
>>>>> If they are making some of you guys that angry, switch back to SL. It can 
>>>>> be done easily enough if you have a recent backup.
>>>>> Email off list please if you need help doing this seeing as this is 
>>>>> starting to become not VO related anymore.
>>>>> Thanks and for those that need too, chill!
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2011-07-22, at 9:16 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Chris:
>>>>>> Do yourself and all of us a favor:
>>>>>> Step away from the computer and chill for a while before writing a 
>>>>>> pointless rave like this.  No one really needs to hear it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Not exactly that anyone would really want! to download this, but, why 
>>>>>>> in the heck is it, that if I go to either
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://www.freedomscientific.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Or:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://www.hj.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Take your pick, for one, I am finding the item chooser stuff happening 
>>>>>>> here as well, if you do vo+I then type d o w... stick with me, it gets 
>>>>>>> even weirder than item choser stuff... I'm just setting some ground...  
>>>>>>> anyway, if you hit vo+i, then do d o w, you won't get the downloads 
>>>>>>> link, yet if you use vo+U and go to links in the roter, then! do it, it 
>>>>>>> works, then go to jaws for windows screen reading software, then try to 
>>>>>>> find the jaws 12 download link, if you hit vo+space on that link, 
>>>>>>> Safari says the page cannot be found.  Now, here's the weird part.  If 
>>>>>>> I try this from my xp pro sp3 machine with either I E, or Firefox, then 
>>>>>>> hit enter on the link, same network l A n, same public I P address, 
>>>>>>> same internet connection, etc. same d h c p, same d n s, same router, 
>>>>>>> nothing changes but the platform, the download works like a charm!  Let 
>>>>>>> me say this, no jokes.  I've had a really rough day, and quite frankly 
>>>>>>> am not in the mood for the smart mouth comments, like, well yeah, Jobs 
>>>>>>> hates FS so he blocked you from the site, or why would you compare jaws 
>>>>>>> to VO, or want to download the fish... you may have a point, but no you 
>>>>>>> really don't, OK.  This isn't about one screen reader being better than 
>>>>>>> another.  this is about the item chooser, and the router, and the 
>>>>>>> downloading in Safari consistently across many pages be very 
>>>>>>> inconsistently odd in behavior.  Take it as such.  If you can't offer 
>>>>>>> anything resourcesful and just wanna throw lookie jokes around, look, 
>>>>>>> I'm not tonight as I would normally be, in the mood for it.  OK?  
>>>>>>> Please, if you all test and find the same thing, let me know.  I'd be 
>>>>>>> interested if anyone knows why the things in Safari have to be so d*** 
>>>>>>> annoying.  I'm frustrated yes, the mods could say that and that I need 
>>>>>>> to chill, and I'm willing to, but people, come on!  I mean, really, one 
>>>>>>> could argue, I'm not the one who decided to jup into Lion right away. 
>>>>>>> You're right.  Perhaps I jumped the gun too soon.  But, that really 
>>>>>>> isn't your right to say.  The thing is, I'm getting more stressed with 
>>>>>>> the Lion update by the minute.  What ticks me off more though is Apple 
>>>>>>> doesn't seem to give a rat's butt one way or another, ar at least it 
>>>>>>> doesn't appear that way, but I'll explain more about that in another 
>>>>>>> more rellavant post.  It's making my experience though not very 
>>>>>>> enjoyable, I tell ya that! though.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Chris.
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