Window-eyes supports 50 displays or some silliness.  I think some of those have 
to be so legacy that no one owns them any more and probably couldn't use them 
if they did because of 64 bit compatibility.  Absolutely every modern display 
that I have ever heard of is supported by window-eyes though.  Voiceover's 
supported devices is seriously impressive though.  I'm nearly sure that every 
modern display is there, and some legacy stuff like the alva satellite 544.


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On 2011-09-25, at 3:08 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:

> Hi Guys.
> I think it makes a difference what you need your braille display for. In my 
> case, I can't use an 18 cell display because I'm doing braille proofreading. 
> Also, although I used to have a 20 cell VersaBraille, I wouldn't want an 18 
> cell display if I were doing a lot of reading with the display, say in Web 
> Braille. 
> 
> You know, there is a big long list of Braille displays supported by 
> VoiceOver, some I never heard of before. I was big time impressed when I read 
> the list. I wonder if any other screen reader supports that many different 
> types of displays.
> 
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
> On Sep 24, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Aimee Glover wrote:
> 
>> Honestly I like the refreshabraille from APH. it is only 18 cells but reads 
>> pretty fast and comfortably. Don't forget it is about $1,000 cheaper too.
>> 
>> Aimee
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 24, 2011, at 7:09 PM, Priscilla Garces 
>> <priscillagarces1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello
>>> I'm considering getting the focus 40 blu Braille display. Has anyone kno 
>>> how feels like if it's portable?  I haven't felt one but I've heard it's 
>>> like reading Braille on regular paper is that true? I'm taking a couple 
>>> courses requiring extensive reading and especially editing in Spanish. I 
>>> plan on taking French too and think Braille will help me learn another 
>>> language.  can I use it with lion on the mbp? Actually the state is 
>>> provitamins me with one in addition to other software like iris pro. Has 
>>> anyone used read iris pro? What are the comparisons between KurtzWeil  1000?
>>> Thank you very much.
>>> Priscilla
>>> priscillagarces1...@hotmail.com
>>>  
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 5:16 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>   Today's Topic Summary
>>>> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
>>>> 
>>>> installing bootcamp accesible? [2 Updates]
>>>> Installing Lion [1 Update]
>>>> payroll program [1 Update]
>>>> ftp server usable in os10? [2 Updates]
>>>> Fusion 4 and Window-Eyes [1 Update]
>>>> More about Window-Eyes and VMware Fusion 4 [3 Updates]
>>>> Problem with the order page on the fusion order page [1 Update]
>>>>  Topic: installing bootcamp accesible?
>>>> Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> Sep 23 04:22PM -0400 ^
>>>>  
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>  
>>>> I was wondering if the installation of bootcamp is accessible.
>>>>  
>>>> I am concerned that when it comes to setting up windows vo will stop 
>>>> speaking.
>>>>  
>>>> Still hoping to hear some feedback for installing xp on lion.
>>>>  
>>>> Thanks for all your help!
>>>>  
>>>> Ioana
>>>>  
>>>> Cody <cdog2...@gmail.com> Sep 23 04:26PM -0400 ^
>>>>  
>>>> As far as installing xp on lion I'm doubting it will work, but then again, 
>>>> I will say I've installed Vista, which is officially unsupported by apple 
>>>> now, so that means xp will be unsupported as well. However this doesn't 
>>>> mean it will not work, because it might but you'r going to have to find 
>>>> drivers, which apple will not support, unless you've got a leopard or snow 
>>>> leopard disk and upgraded to lion, that might work. Voiceover will not 
>>>> speak during the windows install, so you will need an unattended setup, or 
>>>> sighted help.
>>>>  
>>>> Cody
>>>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  Topic: Installing Lion
>>>> ezzie bueno <ezziebu...@gmail.com> Sep 23 12:15PM -0700 ^
>>>>  
>>>> Hi,
>>>>  
>>>> Sorry for my late reply.
>>>> When I go into "About This Mac", it says that it's running 
>>>> version 10.6.8.
>>>>  
>>>> Ezzie
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Paul Erkens <paul.erk...@gmail.com
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Date sent: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:32:01 +0200
>>>> Subject: Re: Installing Lion
>>>>  
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Could it be that installation simply resumed without noticing it? 
>>>> What does it say when you go to the apple menu, and then about 
>>>> this mac?
>>>>  
>>>> On Sep 22, 2011, at 6:43 AM, ezzie bueno wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Hello List:
>>>>  
>>>> I bought Lion through the Mac App store. It said it was 
>>>> installing Lion when I last checked. However, my roommate closed 
>>>> my laptop, not realizing that I had Lion installing.
>>>> When I tried reinstalling Lion, it wouldn't start. What could I 
>>>> possibly be doing wrong?
>>>> Thanks in advance. Any help will be appreciated.
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Ezzie Bueno
>>>> Sent from my BrailleNote Apex
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>>>>  
>>>>  Topic: payroll program
>>>> Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@sbcglobal.net> Sep 23 02:14PM -0500 ^
>>>>  
>>>> Does anyone here know if there is a payroll program that will work with 
>>>> VoiceOver? I have employees, and right now I am using Numbers which is not 
>>>> specifically for that. Luckily, I have experience with calculating 
>>>> employment taxes, but it would be faster to use a payroll program because 
>>>> the computer could automatically put in withholding. 
>>>>  
>>>> Regards, 
>>>> Gigi
>>>>  
>>>>  Topic: ftp server usable in os10?
>>>> Paul Erkens <paul.erk...@gmail.com> Sep 23 02:41PM +0200 ^
>>>>  
>>>> Dear listers,
>>>> I have an ftp server running under windows. It has over 50 user accounts 
>>>> now, but the machine is very old, and some day sooner or later, I will 
>>>> have to replace it. Do I need ftp server software on a mac, or is it 
>>>> already built in?
>>>> If it is built in, can it have separate user accounts, so that I don't 
>>>> have to create each one in users and groups, but rather inside the server 
>>>> software itself so that accounts are local there?
>>>> Can I use an alternative port instead of 21?
>>>> Are there any security risks, more than running an ftp server program 
>>>> under windows on the lan?
>>>> Very interested.
>>>> Paul.
>>>>  
>>>> Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> Sep 23 02:05PM -0400 ^
>>>>  
>>>> There is a perfectly serviceable FTP server built into osx. Because osx is 
>>>> unix underneath you might be able to set up FTP accounts outside the usual 
>>>> users preference pane, but why? Just add the users via the GUI in the 
>>>> usual way and be done. I should point out that I pretty much stick with 
>>>> Afro as is generally recommended these days. Otherwise FTP is just as 
>>>> risky under osx as any other is. If you want to run FTP on another port 
>>>> you might have to poke under the hood to tweak some configuration files 
>>>> but I haven't googled that. Last I checked FTP requires a whole range of 
>>>> ports to be opened as it shifts connections around, making firewalls into 
>>>> Swiss cheese. Might be time to reconsider sftp.
>>>>  
>>>> CB
>>>>  
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  Topic: Fusion 4 and Window-Eyes
>>>> Paul Henrichsen <pfhj2...@gmail.com> Sep 23 11:02AM -0700 ^
>>>>  
>>>> Hi, Guys. I thought that I had heard somewhere that xp isn't supported any 
>>>> longer under lion.
>>>> Could this be the problem; the windows seven works better than xp under 
>>>> lion?
>>>>  
>>>> On Sep 18, 2011, at 7:12 AM, Mark Colman wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  Topic: More about Window-Eyes and VMware Fusion 4
>>>> Paul Henrichsen <pfhj2...@gmail.com> Sep 23 09:45AM -0700 ^
>>>>  
>>>> Hi, Robert. I'm not sure this is true. I was running fusion 3 with 
>>>> window-eyes.
>>>> I downloaded and installed fusion four and it asked me if I wanted to 
>>>> upgrade. I did and also installed the tools. I am currently using 
>>>> window-eyes on my new fusion four without any issues at all except for a 
>>>> bit of sluggishness.
>>>> Otherwise, it works just as fusion 3 did for me.
>>>> Am I missing something in your message?
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>  
>>>> On Sep 20, 2011, at 6:59 AM, Robert Carter wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Paul Henrichsen <pfhj2...@gmail.com> Sep 23 09:48AM -0700 ^
>>>>  
>>>> Hi, Robert. I was concerned that I might get a video intercept problem 
>>>> when upgrading to fusion four, but window eyes didn't give me any problem 
>>>> at all.
>>>> I was sure I would have to reinstall it, but I didn't.
>>>> Except for a little sluggishness, it works fine.
>>>>  
>>>> On Sep 20, 2011, at 8:15 AM, Robert Carter wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Paul Henrichsen <pfhj2...@gmail.com> Sep 23 09:52AM -0700 ^
>>>>  
>>>> It wouldn't make any sense to me to upgrade to fusion 4 then not upgrade 
>>>> the tools. Why upgrade if you aren't going to upgrade completely?
>>>> I guess I should state that I am using an iMac.
>>>> But I'm not having any issues with fusion 4 other than the fact that they 
>>>> took out the ability to launch it automatically when opening it from the 
>>>> doc. With version 3, windows seven could be made to launch automatically. 
>>>> This doesn't appear to be available in fusion 4.
>>>> You need to vo spacebar on the windows seven button.
>>>>  
>>>> On Sep 20, 2011, at 7:11 AM, Bill Holton wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  Topic: Problem with the order page on the fusion order page
>>>> matthew Dyer <ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com> Sep 23 08:15AM -0400 ^
>>>>  
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>  
>>>> Last night I was trying to order a copy of fusion and I kep getting stuck 
>>>> on the shopping cart page and found tha tab was the only way to navagate. 
>>>> Once I was able to verify that only 1 lisonce was in my shopping cart, I 
>>>> was able to press enter to move on to the next screen. 
>>>> Afer filling in all of my info billing info and the like I had to press 
>>>> enter yo get the review order screen, but I could not find the submit 
>>>> order button. Has anyone else had rouble with ordering fusion onoline with 
>>>> vo? How did you get around this? I would rather not have to order it over 
>>>> the ophone if I don't have to.
>>>>  
>>>> Matthew
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> 
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