Hi, I'm having trouble getting Chromevox to work, even though I've read the instructions to install it. I'm using the mac. Thanks, Courtney On Sep 27, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> Is there a way to configure VO to 'sleep' while a certain app is active. I > know screen readers on other platforms have this capability. I hunted around > for a while and couldn't turn up anything related to changing VO settings > depending on what app you're in, not to mention turning it off. I guess > somebody could do an Applescript to invoke Apple-F5 every time you switch to > Chrome but that seems like a lot of churn, and still doesn't address other > VO-enabled apps needing to still work. > > CB > > On 9/27/11 11:04 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote: >> Another nice feature would be that Chrome Vox would remain silent when >> Chrome does not have focus. >> >> On Sep 27, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >>> This would be where activities in Voiceover would really come in handy. >>> Let's say that there was a setting to temporarily put VO to sleep, is there >>> such a beast? If so, one could do an activity that was for Chrome and that >>> put VO to sleep as long as you were in chrome, but when you got out of it, >>> VO would work as expected. Unfortunately however, i don't think such a >>> setting exists. Maybe one should put in a suggestion for this to Apple a11y. >>> >>> /Krister >>> 27 sep 2011 kl. 16:16 skrev Chris Blouch: >>> >>>> Odd. So you have to disable the screen reader to use it? What if I want to >>>> flip over to answer a Skype or IM while I'm wordprocessing? How will I >>>> even know that someone is calling? What if I want to navigate to the >>>> finder and copy a file? Howabout reading my email in mail app to copy >>>> paste some text into a Google Doc file? Requiring the screen reader to be >>>> turned off for their web app to work seems very problematic. >>>> >>>> CB >>>> >>>> On 9/27/11 8:36 AM, Kevin Chao wrote: >>>>> Hi Krister, >>>>> Pleas see response below inline. >>>>> On 9/27/11, Krister Ekstrom<kris...@kristersplace.com> wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> Chrome is as i recall and judging of how it looks on the web page >>>>>> opensource, which according to my experience means very messy web site >>>>>> and >>>>>> documentation. >>>>> ChroemVox and parts of Chrome are open source, but website and >>>>> documentation are very nicely laid out, efficient, andeffective. >>>>>> Having said all this, i would like to know where i can obtain >>>>>> the chromevox extention. So i wonder where to get the extention. can i >>>>>> get >>>>>> it directly from chrome using something or other to get extentions? >>>>> Please see my original message, which started this thread, which is >>>>> still part of conversation and contained within this message for all >>>>> the links to all the details you'll need to get going. >>>>>> Do i have to turn vo off every time i want to use the browser? >>>>> Yes, it's one very effective and effective command away, CMD-F5. >>>>>> /Krister >>>>>> 27 sep 2011 kl. 13:56 skrev Kevin Chao: >>>>>> >>>>>>> HI Paul, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please see response below inline. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/27/11, Paul Erkens<paul.erk...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi Kevin, >>>>>>>> What things did you actually achieve with the google stuff you are so >>>>>>>> happy >>>>>>>> about? Google docs has been a problem for a long time. I know that >>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>> have been working on it in cooperation with google, and that alone is >>>>>>>> already exciting, but I'm curious about a few things before I dive in. >>>>>>> As a college student and an employee where professors, students, and >>>>>>> co-workers are all using Google Docs. It's extremely exciting, >>>>>>> empowering, and equalizing that I am able to use it as well with a >>>>>>> consistent and unified experience on Mac OS X and other platforms. For >>>>>>> me, Mac OS X with the various productivity/office suite and web >>>>>>> browser have not allowed me to be productive, such as iWork (also >>>>>>> tried Open Office, Libra Office, Bean, and Tables) and Safari (also >>>>>>> tried Webkit and Lightning) have not allowed me to be productive. >>>>>>> However, Google has changed all of this. With Chrome, ChromeVox, Docs, >>>>>>> and other Google Apps; I am able to be productive on my Mac. >>>>>>>> 1. When you start to use chrome, which is just another browser, like >>>>>>>> safari >>>>>>>> is the main one on the mac, can you use the chrome browser with >>>>>>>> voiceover >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> start with? >>>>>>> Voiceover will work with Chrome, but the very same issues that occurs >>>>>>> with Safari will exist, such as focus lost, inability to interact with >>>>>>> HTML content, web rotor/item chooser missing elements/items, lag, TAB >>>>>>> key being inconsistent, moving among various HTML elements will >>>>>>> require several attempts, and many other issues. >>>>>>>> 2. If you can, what does the chromevox extension give you on top of it? >>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>> you can not use chrome with voiceover, does chrome plus chromevox then >>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>> you equal performance than safari does, when visiting other websites? >>>>>>>> In >>>>>>>> other words, would you say that chrome is a good replacement for >>>>>>>> safari? >>>>>>> ChromeVox is an extension that has very deep integration with Chrome, >>>>>>> removes several layers of abstractions, and allows for things to be >>>>>>> done that traditional desktop screen readers cannot due to it being a >>>>>>> web browser extension. All the issues I detailed with Safari/VoiceOver >>>>>>> do not exist in Chrome/ChromeVox. >>>>>>>> 3. When using google docs, is it true that many people can work on a >>>>>>>> document simultaneously, and can you now easily see who changed what? >>>>>>> Yes, all of this is possible with Docs, is accessible, and it's >>>>>>> possible to use other real-time features, such as chat to discuss >>>>>>> various points with others who you are collaborating with, several can >>>>>>> make changes, and it's possible to review/edit all these changes as >>>>>>> they're occurring. Inserting, viewing, and editing comments are also >>>>>>> accessible. All of this and much more with Docs applies to documents >>>>>>> and spreadsheets. >>>>>>>> 4. What are the current do's and don'ts, that you found out about, in >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> environment? In other words, what things is the environment good at, >>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>> accessibility point of view? >>>>>>> It's a work in progress, with Google being very interested in >>>>>>> feedback/input, great open communication, and will soon have updates >>>>>>> addressing lots of areas, which includes new features, bug fixes, and >>>>>>> other items, which are based on feedback. Essentially, a great web >>>>>>> browser and access to standard/new versions of Docs, Calendar, and >>>>>>> Gmail are the great highlights. >>>>>>>> Very curious. >>>>>>> Please give it a try. Google has great documentation (user guide, >>>>>>> keyboard command reference, Docs screen reader help, and interactive >>>>>>> tutorial). >>>>>>>> Paul. >>>>>>> Kevin >>>>>>>> On Sep 27, 2011, at 6:06 AM, Kevin Chao wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Google is very committed, understanding, and has done an incredible >>>>>>>>> job with accessibility. In particular, Chrome, ChromeVox (Chrome >>>>>>>>> extension), Apps (Docs [documents/spreadsheets], Calendar, and Gmail). >>>>>>>>> This package results in a very effective, efficient, powerful, and >>>>>>>>> top-notch productivity suite. All is needed is Chrome, ChromeVox, and >>>>>>>>> a Gmail/Apps ID. I've been using Google apps, especially >>>>>>>>> documents/spreadsheets for the last several days within Chrome and >>>>>>>>> ChromeVox extension and find it to be great. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please see below for all the links/details needed to get going with a >>>>>>>>> universally accessible, powerful, robust, and first-class productivity >>>>>>>>> suite. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Google Chrome Canary (Mac/Windows platform powering ChromeVox/Apps): >>>>>>>>> http://j.mp/oWZ7Of >>>>>>>>> Installing ChromeVox as a packed extension >>>>>>>>> http://j.mp/nmnNR5 >>>>>>>>> ChromeVox User Guide: >>>>>>>>> http://t.co/b9ABBkv >>>>>>>>> Use Google Docs with a screen reader >>>>>>>>> http://goo.gl/cmeHV >>>>>>>>> Google accessibility feedback: >>>>>>>>> http://goo.gl/wePru >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> FYI: new/standard UI/look/view is recommended and will work with >>>>>>>>> Chrome/ChromeVox. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kevin >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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