Yes Theresa, that does work. It does what hitting enter on an unopened message did for me before the lion update. But it unfortunately now takes two hands to do what one hand did before. Oh but for my woeful lamenting. Don't worry though, I'll be alright in a couple of years or so. Thank God for VO + J!
But what happened to my mail program. For the first few months of sending and receiving mail, the enter key automatically did what VO-J does now. Why is it now when I open a message, I am automatically placed in "message headers group?" You would think that if it was one way before, and another way now, you would be able to get it back to the way it was before. Oh well, where is my banky and Teddy bear? 'O Johnny boy On Oct 30, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Try pressing VO-j from the message list. This will put you in the message > text. > > Teresa > "Visualize whirled peas." > > On Oct 30, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Johnny Angel! wrote: > >> Hi Simon and all, >> >> There's something else about my lion mail I've noticed after the update: >> >> Originally in mail, after opening up any post, I was placed in "text" mode. >> Now after opening up a post, I am placed in the headers group. >> >> Does anyone know how to restore this behavior so that my mail is opened in >> "text" mode once again? >> >> Perhaps this is now why after opening a message, VO does not automatically >> read it? >> >> Thanks for all your help! >> >> Johnny C >> On Oct 30, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Simon Cavendish wrote: >> >>> Johnny, >>> >>> My mail behaves occasionally in the manner you have described, i.e. >>> Voiceover won't read the message: it's stuck at the beginning of the >>> message and doesn't say anything. But it doesn't happen every time. I've >>> repaired permissions several times. I don't know - and perhaps Scott could >>> chime in if he has the time - there is another application that might clear >>> things up a little. Scott mentions Cocktail but I'm afraid I haven't got a >>> clue what it is. I will do some search for it in Google. I, too, would like >>> to avoid the strange behavior in reading messages that you have described. >>> >>> Best wishes >>> >>> Simon >>> On 30 Oct 2011, at 09:39, Scott Howell wrote: >>> >>>> You may want to run a permissions repair, which can be accessed via Disk >>>> Utility. I had a similar problem and I actually ran Cocktail, which does a >>>> number of maintenance tasks and this did correct the problem. >>>> On Oct 30, 2011, at 12:34 AM, Johnny Angel! wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> Been away from the list for a bit and trying to catch up on my mail. I >>>>> haven't seen anything thus far on the list about the Lion update I got >>>>> when I checked my software updates. It was a 47 minute, 900 meg update >>>>> that kept me up past my beauty sleep start time. <grin> Then, after >>>>> getting back into mail today, I am unhappy to see that my mail messages >>>>> behavior is changed. Before the update, and since I installed Lion, When >>>>> I opened a message, VO would automatically start reading the message for >>>>> me. No longer. After Lion says the word group, which I never heard it >>>>> say before after opening up a message, VO goes silent and I am left at >>>>> the top of the body of the email message. Has anyone else downloaded the >>>>> Lion update? Does everything still work as expected like before the >>>>> update? Now I know that some of you power users out there are scratching >>>>> your eggheads, shaking them and saying: Johnny me lad, this is no biggy. >>>>> But please understand that the only power this four month old baby >>>>> MacBook Pro user demonstrates is pushin the old power button to turn Mac >>>>> on! <smiley> Anyway, I would like to get things back to my expected >>>>> normalness. Now, I had originally set up Lion mail to be in simple, non >>>>> thread mode where, status, number, sender, subject and date sent were the >>>>> only things I would hear when left and right VO arrowing on a closed >>>>> message. This seems to be the same. >>>>> Oh and another funny thing too: >>>>> It seems that at least once in a while, two finger swiping down on the >>>>> trackpad hadn't work either. I saw a couple of messages on repair >>>>> permissions, so I took the wise advice and did just that. But after >>>>> getting back into mail, nothing was changed. >>>>> Well I said all that to ask two questions: >>>>> 1. How can I tell what mode my Lion mail program is in? >>>>> 2. Any other ideas on what may have happened to my nice mail reading >>>>> capabilities and how I may go about fixing it? >>>>> Incidentally, quick nav is off like usual. >>>>> Johnny Angel! >>>>> beefca...@neo.rr.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> Johnny Angel! >> beefca...@neo.rr.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Johnny Angel! beefca...@neo.rr.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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