How odd. I just tried hitting return in the message list, and it landed me in the message text. I'm now mystified as to why you land in the headers area.
Teresa I'm a pantheist; I worship Pan. On Oct 30, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Johnny Angel! wrote: > Yes Theresa, that does work. It does what hitting enter on an unopened > message did for me before the lion update. But it unfortunately now takes > two hands to do what one hand did before. Oh but for my woeful lamenting. > Don't worry though, I'll be alright in a couple of years or so. Thank God > for VO + J! > > But what happened to my mail program. For the first few months of sending > and receiving mail, the enter key automatically did what VO-J does now. Why > is it now when I open a message, I am automatically placed in "message > headers group?" You would think that if it was one way before, and another > way now, you would be able to get it back to the way it was before. Oh well, > where is my banky and Teddy bear? > > 'O Johnny boy > On Oct 30, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > >> Try pressing VO-j from the message list. This will put you in the message >> text. >> >> Teresa >> "Visualize whirled peas." >> >> On Oct 30, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Johnny Angel! wrote: >> >>> Hi Simon and all, >>> >>> There's something else about my lion mail I've noticed after the update: >>> >>> Originally in mail, after opening up any post, I was placed in "text" mode. >>> Now after opening up a post, I am placed in the headers group. >>> >>> Does anyone know how to restore this behavior so that my mail is opened in >>> "text" mode once again? >>> >>> Perhaps this is now why after opening a message, VO does not automatically >>> read it? >>> >>> Thanks for all your help! >>> >>> Johnny C >>> On Oct 30, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Simon Cavendish wrote: >>> >>>> Johnny, >>>> >>>> My mail behaves occasionally in the manner you have described, i.e. >>>> Voiceover won't read the message: it's stuck at the beginning of the >>>> message and doesn't say anything. But it doesn't happen every time. I've >>>> repaired permissions several times. I don't know - and perhaps Scott could >>>> chime in if he has the time - there is another application that might >>>> clear things up a little. Scott mentions Cocktail but I'm afraid I haven't >>>> got a clue what it is. I will do some search for it in Google. I, too, >>>> would like to avoid the strange behavior in reading messages that you have >>>> described. >>>> >>>> Best wishes >>>> >>>> Simon >>>> On 30 Oct 2011, at 09:39, Scott Howell wrote: >>>> >>>>> You may want to run a permissions repair, which can be accessed via Disk >>>>> Utility. I had a similar problem and I actually ran Cocktail, which does >>>>> a number of maintenance tasks and this did correct the problem. >>>>> On Oct 30, 2011, at 12:34 AM, Johnny Angel! wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Been away from the list for a bit and trying to catch up on my mail. I >>>>>> haven't seen anything thus far on the list about the Lion update I got >>>>>> when I checked my software updates. It was a 47 minute, 900 meg update >>>>>> that kept me up past my beauty sleep start time. <grin> Then, after >>>>>> getting back into mail today, I am unhappy to see that my mail messages >>>>>> behavior is changed. Before the update, and since I installed Lion, >>>>>> When I opened a message, VO would automatically start reading the >>>>>> message for me. No longer. After Lion says the word group, which I >>>>>> never heard it say before after opening up a message, VO goes silent and >>>>>> I am left at the top of the body of the email message. Has anyone else >>>>>> downloaded the Lion update? Does everything still work as expected like >>>>>> before the update? Now I know that some of you power users out there >>>>>> are scratching your eggheads, shaking them and saying: Johnny me lad, >>>>>> this is no biggy. But please understand that the only power this four >>>>>> month old baby MacBook Pro user demonstrates is pushin the old power >>>>>> button to turn Mac on! <smiley> Anyway, I would like to get things >>>>>> back to my expected normalness. Now, I had originally set up Lion mail >>>>>> to be in simple, non thread mode where, status, number, sender, subject >>>>>> and date sent were the only things I would hear when left and right VO >>>>>> arrowing on a closed message. This seems to be the same. >>>>>> Oh and another funny thing too: >>>>>> It seems that at least once in a while, two finger swiping down on the >>>>>> trackpad hadn't work either. I saw a couple of messages on repair >>>>>> permissions, so I took the wise advice and did just that. But after >>>>>> getting back into mail, nothing was changed. >>>>>> Well I said all that to ask two questions: >>>>>> 1. How can I tell what mode my Lion mail program is in? >>>>>> 2. Any other ideas on what may have happened to my nice mail reading >>>>>> capabilities and how I may go about fixing it? >>>>>> Incidentally, quick nav is off like usual. >>>>>> Johnny Angel! >>>>>> beefca...@neo.rr.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> Johnny Angel! >>> beefca...@neo.rr.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > Johnny Angel! > beefca...@neo.rr.com > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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