When I go to the doc from lion I press M for mail and get mission control 
(Whatever that is), and then press A hoping it will go to mail.  That doesn't 
work.  How can I get to mail quicker than just arrowing to it.

Thanks for your help.

Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
On Nov 9, 2011, at 4:04 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:

> Karon,
> 
> I have found that most PDF files are not readable using voiceover in OS X. 
> this doesn't mean all of them are inaccessible, but it appears that a vast 
> majority are imported graphic files in a container.
> 
> as for captchas, I find them nearly impossible to solve, and some sites that 
> have audio captchas, the audio will not play under safari and some others are 
> severely distorted. couple this with the fact that mozilla firefox isn't 
> accessible using voiceover, that certain captcha solving plugins are also 
> inaccessible (and no such plugins are available for safari that I know of). 
> since I am not a windows user, nor do I wish to spend large sums of money to 
> do so, I am not inclined to use microsoft based products. This means that I 
> am also limited in how I do some things on the net (especially where visually 
> based security is concerned.
> 
> -eric 
> On Nov 8, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> For reasons that are complicated to explain I have the ear of the legal 
>> department at paypal -ebay.  Part of the reason is that, as some of you may 
>> know, they are *requiring* all users to agree that that they read pdf files, 
>> or they will lose their account.  Because of this and some other access 
>> issues with paypal and ebay, i have been asked to document why things like 
>> pdf and captcha are issues for those using adaptive tools.  I have told them 
>> already that to assume everyone is using jaws is impractical, and that still 
>> browsers like lynx, with its recent edition  dated June 2011, are good 
>> foundations for access.  I have shared that pdf reaains a hurtle, and 
>> captcha is flat out an issue, as is stuff like flash.
>> because they are serious though I want to make maximum use of this 
>> opportunity.  What I would welcome is article information, places that 
>> discuss why pdf for example and captcha remain barriers.  Likewise posts 
>> from you if you have met with issues with either service would be welcome. I 
>> want them to fix this for everyone, not just sweep me under the corporate 
>> rug.  That they are shifting all document responsibility t the end user is 
>> disturbing, since if you have an issue say with security, you will bare the 
>> blame for any discrepancies in documentation.
>> 
>> Additionally, if part of your professional life is access, share under your 
>> professional umbrella.  If I get enough research responses, i will construct 
>> a solid document for them, and include as many other people as I can.
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Karen
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