Thank you Rachael.  I hope you had a great weekend and have a great week.

Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
On Nov 12, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Rachel magario wrote:

> Janny,
> 
> I just created a shortcut to open mail for me in the  voice over utilities 
> under key board commanders.
> I chose the right option key to be my commander and I just do option m and 
> that opens my mail, but you can choose whatever key you want. I thought this 
> way it is super fast and I do only one short cut key instead of going to doc 
> or to spot light search, although those are valid ways that I use for other 
> applications I don't use as often as mail and safari.
> HTH,
> Rachel.
> 
> On Nov 12, 2011, at 8:32 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
> 
>> Thank you.  Hope you have a great weekend.
>> 
>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>> On Nov 11, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Bill Holton wrote:
>> 
>>> Easiest way for me is to just press command space, type mail and press
>>> enter.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
>>> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 3:41 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: How do I get to mail from the doc quickly
>>> 
>>> Hi Jennifer,
>>> 
>>> After you typed an M, if you wait a few seconds and type an A, you'll land
>>> on an app starting with the letter A.  This is why you need to type
>>> successive letters quickly until you hear what you want to activate.
>>> 
>>> Les
>>> On Nov 11, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I try that and it goes to mission control and then something else that
>>> starts with an A.  Am I doing something wrong?
>>>> 
>>>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>>>> On Nov 11, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Hai Nguyen Ly wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Jennifer,
>>>>> Just start typing in mail when you are in the dock and press enter when
>>> you hear VoiceOver say "Mail".
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 11, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> When I go to the doc from lion I press M for mail and get mission
>>> control (Whatever that is), and then press A hoping it will go to mail.
>>> That doesn't work.  How can I get to mail quicker than just arrowing to it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2011, at 4:04 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Karon,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have found that most PDF files are not readable using voiceover in OS
>>> X. this doesn't mean all of them are inaccessible, but it appears that a
>>> vast majority are imported graphic files in a container.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> as for captchas, I find them nearly impossible to solve, and some sites
>>> that have audio captchas, the audio will not play under safari and some
>>> others are severely distorted. couple this with the fact that mozilla
>>> firefox isn't accessible using voiceover, that certain captcha solving
>>> plugins are also inaccessible (and no such plugins are available for safari
>>> that I know of). since I am not a windows user, nor do I wish to spend large
>>> sums of money to do so, I am not inclined to use microsoft based products.
>>> This means that I am also limited in how I do some things on the net
>>> (especially where visually based security is concerned.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -eric 
>>>>>>> On Nov 8, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>>> For reasons that are complicated to explain I have the ear of the
>>> legal department at paypal -ebay.  Part of the reason is that, as some of
>>> you may know, they are *requiring* all users to agree that that they read
>>> pdf files, or they will lose their account.  Because of this and some other
>>> access issues with paypal and ebay, i have been asked to document why things
>>> like pdf and captcha are issues for those using adaptive tools.  I have told
>>> them already that to assume everyone is using jaws is impractical, and that
>>> still browsers like lynx, with its recent edition  dated June 2011, are good
>>> foundations for access.  I have shared that pdf reaains a hurtle, and
>>> captcha is flat out an issue, as is stuff like flash.
>>>>>>>> because they are serious though I want to make maximum use of this
>>> opportunity.  What I would welcome is article information, places that
>>> discuss why pdf for example and captcha remain barriers.  Likewise posts
>>> from you if you have met with issues with either service would be welcome. I
>>> want them to fix this for everyone, not just sweep me under the corporate
>>> rug.  That they are shifting all document responsibility t the end user is
>>> disturbing, since if you have an issue say with security, you will bare the
>>> blame for any discrepancies in documentation.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Additionally, if part of your professional life is access, share under
>>> your professional umbrella.  If I get enough research responses, i will
>>> construct a solid document for them, and include as many other people as I
>>> can.
>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>> Karen
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