Numpad commander sounds great but I just have a MBA. How do others use the keyboard commander. Mostly so far I've just added commands to launch programs. I have felt like I should learn the proper commands before replacing any.
Garth Sent from my iPhone On 27/11/2011, at 2:26 AM, David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have come into this thread late so apologies if these points have > already been made. > > I am a comparative new Mac user and to be honest also initially found many > of the VO shortcuts very key intensive. Quick nab helped a bit but I was > constantly having to turn it on and off which added complication. Changing > the function of the Tab key to automatically interact also helped a bit. > This was not helped by my not getting on with the initial I MAC thin > keyboard which gave me terrible RSI. For the first time I had to wear > bandages over my wrists. > 2 cope with the pain. > 2 things have transformed matters for me. the firs is num pad commander > which has for me personally revolutionised the ease of using Voiceover. . > This has delivered much of the convenience of some old windows shortcuts and > more. So if you want an application key to bring up the context menu then > simply press the plus key on the num pad. . > . I can even cope with interacting in and out of elements now with out > wrecking my wrists because all I have to do is press 9 to interact and 7 to > stop interacting. I execute by pressing the 5 key and so on. The other > brilliant feature of the Mac is column view folder navigation which I > constantly miss in Windows now. The other reasons for switching to the Mac is > that hopefully Apple show no intention of losing a menu bar and moving to a > hateful ribbon arrangement. By the way pressing 8 on num pad will bring up > the menu bar, very easy. The other joy of the Mac is the way access tools > work across the system. For example item chooser works as far as I can see > everywhere and not just in Safari. I use it a lot in unfamiliar applications > to get around. > > My only major disappointments so far is that after trying TextEdit bean, > Nisus writer pro and Pages I have not found a satisfactory word processor to > cope with word documents. Whether we like it or not this is a standard most > of the world uses and none of these applications seem to cope with tables. > If you are going to use a word processor for serious use then support for a > table standard must be a basic necessity and I am baffled as to why this has > not been sorted out ages ago. > I also cannot do my online banking on the Mac as Safari will not even provide > any feedback when entering passwords. Sometimes you sporadically get a click > in some fields but often there is no typing feedback at all. I had to reset > my passwords after several confused login attempts so sadly it is back to > windows for anything involving passwords and finance. > Secondly the other massive improvement was that I have got rid of the > torture that was the new I MAC keyboard and replaced it with an older chunky > model which with a wrist support no longer pains my hands and shoulders. If I > could only now find a natural ergonomic keyboard that worked on a mac life > would be definitely on the up. Unfortunately the windows ergonomic keyboards > I have tried do not work. > > Anyway my recommendation is give num pad commander a try. If you have a mac > book then I would definitely invest in an external keyboard to gain the > convenience of the num pad. > David Griffith > > n 26 Nov 2011, at 09:19, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello Garth, >> >> There are vast numbers of keyboard shortcuts that have nothing to do with >> VoiceOver. >> >> To get a contextual menu, hold down the Control key and click with the mouse >> or trackpad; >> To get to the Apple menu, press Ctrl-F2; >> To go to the dock, press Ctrl-F3; >> To go to the Status menus, press Ctrl-F8; >> To go to the Toolbar, press Ctrl-F5; >> To open the Applications folder, press Cmd-Shift-A; >> To open the Utilities folder, press Cmd-Shift-U; >> To open the Documents folder, press Cmd-Shift-O; >> To open the Home folder, press Cmd-Shift-H; >> And there are many more. >> >> To learn more about shortcuts and enable the ones you want, go into System >> Preferences, Keyboard, and select the Shortcuts tab. There you will find a >> table of categories, and to the right of that, a table of shortcuts for the >> category you've chosen. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> >> >> On 26 Nov 2011, at 09:24, Garth Humphreys wrote: >> >>> Hi Ricardo and Scott >>> >>> Sorry this is just an impression I have. I will explain a little further >>> what I mean, and let me also say that I acknowledge that as a new mac user >>> I probably don't really know what I am talking about. >>> >>> It is things like bringing up a context menu. There is obviously the 4 >>> finger VO way to do this. Is there any keyboard only way of doing this >>> other then the VO one? Under windows there is a specific key for this as >>> well as at least one other 2 finger keyboard shortcut. >>> >>> I get the impression that a lot of the UI in OSX is designed to be >>> interacted with by using a mouse or now the track pad primarily. This is >>> obviously the same with windows but in windows I think that you would be >>> more likely to be able to find a keystroke which would accomplish the task >>> you wanted. VO seems to have to overcome the lack of a native keyboard >>> shortcut and it often seems that there are a lot of steps that are needed >>> to get the job done. Not to mention the number of keys that make up some of >>> the shortcuts. >>> >>> There has been a strong history of supporting keyboard shortcuts under >>> windows. I read recently somewhere, possibly in the Steve Jobs biography, >>> that at one time he wanted to get rid of arrow keys on his keyboards >>> altogether. >>> >>> I think Pages is probably a lot more efficient to use if you are able to >>> see and can use the mouse. Under word you can achieve heaps with simple >>> keyboard shortcuts. >>> >>> Anyway as I said these are just the impressions of a new mac user. >>> >>> Garth >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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