Hi all, VO is acting really odd on my MBP today. It has stopped talking all the sudden three different times. I had to restart it and then it was fine. Anyone got any suggestions? Also does anyone know why Safari often keeps saying busy?
Becky and C On Nov 29, 2011, at 7:29 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: > Today's Topic Summary > Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics > > YoruFukurou and lists. [3 Updates] > solved safari extensions question posted previously [1 Update] > Little Mac Victories [1 Update] > making sure safari extension are installed? [1 Update] > interesting bug in voiceover with numbers and apostrophes [5 Updates] > Looking for a monitor to connect to my mac mini [1 Update] > Growl Notifications readout [4 Updates] > Sorry but I gotta ask again | VMWare Key Mapping [1 Update] > Burning Itunes purchases to CD? [6 Updates] > iphone4s and triple home [1 Update] > Questions about sound check [1 Update] > YoruFukurou and lists. > Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> Nov 29 05:31PM -0500 > > Hi, > > I have a feeling I'm missing something really obvious but, how do you view > your lists in YoruFukurou? > > Thanks. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > Kevin Mattingly <kdmattin...@gmail.com> Nov 29 06:01PM -0500 > > When you say list, what are you refering to? > > Kev > On Nov 29, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > > > Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> Nov 29 07:29PM -0500 > > You know, lists of people you follow but keep separate from your main > timeline? For example, one might creat a list for sports and just add the > athletes they care to follow on twitter? > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > On Nov 29, 2011, at 6:01 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: > > > solved safari extensions question posted previously > Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> Nov 29 06:53PM -0500 > > Hi all, > > Found extensions under preferences so problem solved. Thanks! > > Ioana > > Little Mac Victories > Traci <our4p...@gmail.com> Nov 29 03:46PM -0800 > > Hope y'all don't mind me sharing such an email… > > > I was on a music site I like to buy from, from time to time. I went there on > my Mac and hesitated, thinking I should wait to hop onto my windows. *Grin,* > I decided to give it a whirl on my Mac. > > Looky there! There was a bit of struggle navigating the website, but for the > most part it was a more pleasant experience than on my windows machine. I was > tickled to search for a track, log in, and purchase said track. > > The song is now nicely inside iTunes, inside a playlist. :) Loving it! > > A side note here: ever since I reformatted my iPod Nano to Mac, syncing has > been lightning faster. > > It's a good Mac Day! > Traci > Sent by Macbook Air Mail > > making sure safari extension are installed? > Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> Nov 29 06:41PM -0500 > > Hi all, > > I downloaded the youtube 5 safari extension talked about on the list and > pressed open on the file. Got some dialog about asking if I want to install > this extension but I don't know if it was successful. Is there a way to see > the list of installed extensions? > Thanks, > > Ioana > > interesting bug in voiceover with numbers and apostrophes > Paul Erkens <paul.erk...@gmail.com> Nov 29 10:52PM +0100 > > Dear listers, > Before I start bugging Apple with what I think is a bug, I would like to ask > you listers about the following. I found the bug while working in Amadeus > pro. In this sound editor, for some reason, you have to enter time in a > strange way. Let's say I have a file open that is 30 minutes long, but I > would like to jump right to 10 minutes, 3 seconds and half a second more. So > 10 minutes, 3 seconds and 500 milliseconds. In Amadeus pro, I have to enter > this, using apostrophes as time separators, and 2 apostrophes to separate the > seconds from the milliseconds. Does this sound weird? I don't know why > amadeus wants me to use 2 apostrophes in a row, even though that works fine > if you obey, although this is not important for this voiceover bug, but here > I found something strange happen with voiceover. > Here's the test. For ten minutes 3 seconds and 500 milliseconds, here's what > I type in inside amadeus pro. I'll type it literally, so let's see what your > voiceover says here. > 10'3''500 > With my current voiceover punctuation set to some, I hear: > ten, thirty nine one one five hundred. This is strange, because what I type > was: > 1 0 apostrophe 3 apostrophe apostrophe 5 0 0. > What the heck is happening here with voiceover? Where does that thirty nine > come from? I didn't type it, but if you omit the last apostrophe, so that the > 3 seconds are now only separated from the milliseconds by just one > apostrophe, then everything speaks just fine. In other words, try typing this. > one zero apostrophe 3 apostrophe 5 0 0 > If you do this, then you hear what is on the screen. With 2 apostrophes in a > row though, voiceover screws up. Can anyone confirm this? > 10'3'500 against 10'3''500. > Isn't that interesting? Hmm. > > "Red.Falcon" <velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com> Nov 29 10:02PM > > Hi Paul! > I'm on snowy kitty! > And I've got my punctuation set to most! > What I here is 1 hundred 3 thousand 5 hundred! > From the one you gave as an example no 39 here! > hth Colin > On 29 Nov 2011, at 21:52, Paul Erkens wrote: > > > Paul Erkens <paul.erk...@gmail.com> Nov 29 11:03PM +0100 > > Hi Colin, > Yes I forgot to mention that I am using Lion indeed. So, any Lion users > experiencig this voiceover bug? > On Nov 29, 2011, at 11:02 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: > > > Cody <cdog2...@gmail.com> Nov 29 05:04PM -0500 > > I hear the 39 1 1 500 as well, I hav emy punc level set to some > On Nov 29, 2011, at 5:02 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: > > > Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> Nov 30 12:10AM +0100 > > Hello Paul, > > It's definitely a bug in Lion. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 29 Nov 2011, at 22:52, Paul Erkens wrote: > > > Looking for a monitor to connect to my mac mini > Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> Nov 29 05:43PM -0500 > > So you'll need two adapters. One is the HDMI or DVI to VGA and the > second is the VGA to NTSC box to trick your Mac into thinking there is a > monitor hooked up. > > Nope. Not accessible at all. This is the same problem with Firefox. The > Mozilla folks support the open Iaccessible2 API which is not implemented > on OSX. Apple already has a perfectly dandy accessibility API but > Mozilla has no intention of supporting a second platform-specific API > since iAccessible2 works on both Windows and Linux. So the standoff > leaves all Mozilla apps unusable on OSX for now. Different story on > Windows as FF with IAccessible2 and NVDA or Jaws is somewhat the gold > standard for good web accessibility support such as ARIA. > > CB > > On 11/29/11 3:30 PM, matthew Dyer wrote: > > Growl Notifications readout > Traci <our4p...@gmail.com> Nov 29 01:47PM -0800 > > Those of you that use growl, how do you have voiceover set up to handle the > system dialogues that pop up? > > It annoys me how every time growl notifies me, I'm pulled from my current > application, and then I have no idea what I'm being notified about. > > Am I missing some setting here? > > Thanks, > Traci > Sent by Macbook Air Mail > > Cody <cdog2...@gmail.com> Nov 29 05:03PM -0500 > > am I wrong or does growel now cost $1.99? where can one get this from? I > tried getting it from google but didn't really try all that hard, but only > found some sort of frame work. I found a few growel things in the app store, > but I wasn't sure what to select. This would be nice to have skype read > messages automatically > On Nov 29, 2011, at 4:47 PM, Traci wrote: > > > Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> Nov 29 05:33PM -0500 > > Yup, Growl has decided to start charging. I questioned this because some > apps avoid implementing accessible notification by just pointing folks > to Growl. While not expensive, it does mean that VO users will have to > shell out and set up more to gain the same access. I has asked for > comments on this but apparently it bothered me more than most others :) > > CB > > On 11/29/11 5:03 PM, Cody wrote: > > Traci <our4p...@gmail.com> Nov 29 02:38PM -0800 > > I'm still using growl for free. I'm assuming it is because I haven't updated. > > Any feedback on growl notifications and voiceOver? > > Traci > Sent by Macbook Air Mail > > On Nov 29, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > > > Sorry but I gotta ask again | VMWare Key Mapping > "Shawn Krasniuk" <bigbigshawn....@gmail.com> Nov 29 04:28PM -0600 > > Hey all. I'd like to know this information too since none of the keys that > I've tried to remap work. I need to have a key that works as the System > Access modifier key which is pretty much the same as the Jawskey. I know that > I'll be going back to Lion soon so I won't need the version of Fusion that I > have which is version 2, but that won't be until a few weeks when my computer > exam is done. So until then, it would be nice if I could use my screen reader > properly. > > Shawn > > Burning Itunes purchases to CD? > Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> Nov 29 04:40PM -0500 > > Hi, > > This isn't exactly true. that purchases online will pass CD purchases. Online > sales has already surpassed CD sales for a year or 2. Its more that the > revenue from online sales will surpass that of CD sales. You must also keep > in mind the price of a CD over the years. I remember in the 1990s, it was > common place to get a new album for $16, $17, or $18 before tax. These prices > have gone down tremendously to entice people to pick up CDs. That accounts > for much of the lost revenue from this media format. Its hard to over inflat > your prices when people can just get the album at home, with no physical > media for like $10. And if they want, just by a song for for a dollar or a > little more. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > On Nov 29, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > > > Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> Nov 29 04:41PM -0500 > > Hi, > > just send it to the e-mail at the end of this message. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > On Nov 29, 2011, at 4:40 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > > > "Mr. L. Alexander" <turningbyto...@gmail.com> Nov 29 09:42PM > > that's why I left the music business. > > On 29 Nov 2011, at 21:40, Ricardo Walker wrote: > > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsfortheb...@mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working > apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a > copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help > anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> Nov 29 04:43PM -0500 > > You left it because its harder to rip people off? lol > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > On Nov 29, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: > > > "Mr. L. Alexander" <turningbyto...@gmail.com> Nov 29 09:45PM > > no. because the way the music industry is these days, you get dodgy media > companies, managers who rip you off and then there's technology. don't get me > started. I'm a long retired musician. better off to be honest. > > lew > > On 29 Nov 2011, at 21:43, Ricardo Walker wrote: > > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsfortheb...@mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working > apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a > copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help > anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> Nov 29 05:25PM -0500 > > Agreed. You would think the profit margin from downloading a $10 album > would be greater than CDs after the cost of duplication, shipping and > store frontage/reselling is accounted for. What has changed is the > labels can't stuff a bunch of junk on an album which you bought for the > two 'good songs'. If the do you'll give them the $2 it's worth by just > buying those two tracks. I think they also benefited from the media > conversions as folks migrated from LPs to tapes to CDs. That migration > over time generated a lot of revenue, which has pretty much dried up at > this point. I remember dubbing LPs to casette and later re-buying some > of those LPs on CD. At this point the quality is 'good enough' that most > will never upgrade again. As has been pointed out on this list before, > imperical studies found that more people chose the mp3 version of a > track over the uncompressed version so something about that codec makes > your iTunes library more appealing to listen to. The other great thing > is portability. I used to carry a good sized "wallet" of CDs around and > a portable CD player etc. which is now replaced by an iPhone. The > iPhones now have enough capacity that most people just dump their whole > library or, at a minimum, don't have to whittle the list down much. With > more ubiquitous wireless access, even that need will go away over time. > Why store it all when I can just play anything via the internet on > demand. I'm not sold on that yet as I still like the idea of 'ownership' > of my media. I still have the first Rush Moving Pictures CD I bough back > in the early 80s. > > CB > > On 11/29/11 4:40 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > > iphone4s and triple home > Paul Erkens <paul.erk...@gmail.com> Nov 29 11:02PM +0100 > > To add to this: I remember reading somewhere, that if set up a new iphone > with ios 5, the 4 s will have it, if you don't hear anything and you wait 1 > or 2 minutes, then voiceover would come on automatically. Maybe Kevin Ciao > will know this for sure. > > On Nov 29, 2011, at 5:03 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > > > Questions about sound check > Traci <our4p...@gmail.com> Nov 29 01:44PM -0800 > > Thanks all, > > I'll have to play with this sound check further. I'm looking forward to see > how it is handled with the Nano docked. Lol, it sucked with a headset, > ohMyGall, my ear still hurts from the sudden burst of volume on a particular > track. > > Traci > Sent by Macbook Air Mail > > On Nov 29, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group > macvisionaries. > You can post via email. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an empty message. > For more options, visit this group. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. 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