Hi y'all. My computer was being a really naughty computer yesterday. I updated it late yesterday afternoon, and I sure hope Apple has now fixed it. My speech froze; I turned speech off and back on, but it wasn't always fine. Sometimes it killed the speech altogether and kept running the braille display. I know this is going to sound weird, but it seemed to me that it behaved better when I changed voices from Alex to Samantha. I decided I'd rather put up with the changes in pitch occasionally than have to restart all the time. I also noticed that sometimes quitting TextEdit worked to restore things.
Regards, Gigi, who is hoping my Mbp behaves better today On Nov 29, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Becky Knaub wrote: > Hi all, > VO is acting really odd on my MBP today. It has stopped talking all the > sudden three different times. I had to restart it and then it was fine. > Anyone got any suggestions? Also does anyone know why Safari often keeps > saying busy? > > Becky and C > On Nov 29, 2011, at 7:29 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: > >> Today's Topic Summary >> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics >> >> YoruFukurou and lists. [3 Updates] >> solved safari extensions question posted previously [1 Update] >> Little Mac Victories [1 Update] >> making sure safari extension are installed? [1 Update] >> interesting bug in voiceover with numbers and apostrophes [5 Updates] >> Looking for a monitor to connect to my mac mini [1 Update] >> Growl Notifications readout [4 Updates] >> Sorry but I gotta ask again | VMWare Key Mapping [1 Update] >> Burning Itunes purchases to CD? [6 Updates] >> iphone4s and triple home [1 Update] >> Questions about sound check [1 Update] >> YoruFukurou and lists. >> Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> Nov 29 05:31PM -0500 >> >> Hi, >> >> I have a feeling I'm missing something really obvious but, how do you view >> your lists in YoruFukurou? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> Kevin Mattingly <kdmattin...@gmail.com> Nov 29 06:01PM -0500 >> >> When you say list, what are you refering to? >> >> Kev >> On Nov 29, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >> >> Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> Nov 29 07:29PM -0500 >> >> You know, lists of people you follow but keep separate from your main >> timeline? For example, one might creat a list for sports and just add the >> athletes they care to follow on twitter? >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> On Nov 29, 2011, at 6:01 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: >> >> >> solved safari extensions question posted previously >> Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> Nov 29 06:53PM -0500 >> >> Hi all, >> >> Found extensions under preferences so problem solved. Thanks! >> >> Ioana >> >> Little Mac Victories >> Traci <our4p...@gmail.com> Nov 29 03:46PM -0800 >> >> Hope y'all don't mind me sharing such an email… >> >> >> I was on a music site I like to buy from, from time to time. I went there on >> my Mac and hesitated, thinking I should wait to hop onto my windows. *Grin,* >> I decided to give it a whirl on my Mac. >> >> Looky there! There was a bit of struggle navigating the website, but for the >> most part it was a more pleasant experience than on my windows machine. I >> was tickled to search for a track, log in, and purchase said track. >> >> The song is now nicely inside iTunes, inside a playlist. :) Loving it! >> >> A side note here: ever since I reformatted my iPod Nano to Mac, syncing has >> been lightning faster. >> >> It's a good Mac Day! >> Traci >> Sent by Macbook Air Mail >> >> making sure safari extension are installed? >> Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> Nov 29 06:41PM -0500 >> >> Hi all, >> >> I downloaded the youtube 5 safari extension talked about on the list and >> pressed open on the file. Got some dialog about asking if I want to install >> this extension but I don't know if it was successful. Is there a way to see >> the list of installed extensions? >> Thanks, >> >> Ioana >> >> interesting bug in voiceover with numbers and apostrophes >> Paul Erkens <paul.erk...@gmail.com> Nov 29 10:52PM +0100 >> >> Dear listers, >> Before I start bugging Apple with what I think is a bug, I would like to ask >> you listers about the following. I found the bug while working in Amadeus >> pro. In this sound editor, for some reason, you have to enter time in a >> strange way. Let's say I have a file open that is 30 minutes long, but I >> would like to jump right to 10 minutes, 3 seconds and half a second more. So >> 10 minutes, 3 seconds and 500 milliseconds. In Amadeus pro, I have to enter >> this, using apostrophes as time separators, and 2 apostrophes to separate >> the seconds from the milliseconds. Does this sound weird? I don't know why >> amadeus wants me to use 2 apostrophes in a row, even though that works fine >> if you obey, although this is not important for this voiceover bug, but here >> I found something strange happen with voiceover. >> Here's the test. For ten minutes 3 seconds and 500 milliseconds, here's what >> I type in inside amadeus pro. I'll type it literally, so let's see what your >> voiceover says here. >> 10'3''500 >> With my current voiceover punctuation set to some, I hear: >> ten, thirty nine one one five hundred. This is strange, because what I type >> was: >> 1 0 apostrophe 3 apostrophe apostrophe 5 0 0. >> What the heck is happening here with voiceover? Where does that thirty nine >> come from? I didn't type it, but if you omit the last apostrophe, so that >> the 3 seconds are now only separated from the milliseconds by just one >> apostrophe, then everything speaks just fine. In other words, try typing >> this. >> one zero apostrophe 3 apostrophe 5 0 0 >> If you do this, then you hear what is on the screen. With 2 apostrophes in a >> row though, voiceover screws up. Can anyone confirm this? >> 10'3'500 against 10'3''500. >> Isn't that interesting? Hmm. >> >> "Red.Falcon" <velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com> Nov 29 10:02PM >> >> Hi Paul! >> I'm on snowy kitty! >> And I've got my punctuation set to most! >> What I here is 1 hundred 3 thousand 5 hundred! >> From the one you gave as an example no 39 here! >> hth Colin >> On 29 Nov 2011, at 21:52, Paul Erkens wrote: >> >> >> Paul Erkens <paul.erk...@gmail.com> Nov 29 11:03PM +0100 >> >> Hi Colin, >> Yes I forgot to mention that I am using Lion indeed. So, any Lion users >> experiencig this voiceover bug? >> On Nov 29, 2011, at 11:02 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: >> >> >> Cody <cdog2...@gmail.com> Nov 29 05:04PM -0500 >> >> I hear the 39 1 1 500 as well, I hav emy punc level set to some >> On Nov 29, 2011, at 5:02 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: >> >> >> Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> Nov 30 12:10AM +0100 >> >> Hello Paul, >> >> It's definitely a bug in Lion. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> On 29 Nov 2011, at 22:52, Paul Erkens wrote: >> >> >> Looking for a monitor to connect to my mac mini >> Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> Nov 29 05:43PM -0500 >> >> So you'll need two adapters. One is the HDMI or DVI to VGA and the >> second is the VGA to NTSC box to trick your Mac into thinking there is a >> monitor hooked up. >> >> Nope. Not accessible at all. This is the same problem with Firefox. The >> Mozilla folks support the open Iaccessible2 API which is not implemented >> on OSX. Apple already has a perfectly dandy accessibility API but >> Mozilla has no intention of supporting a second platform-specific API >> since iAccessible2 works on both Windows and Linux. So the standoff >> leaves all Mozilla apps unusable on OSX for now. Different story on >> Windows as FF with IAccessible2 and NVDA or Jaws is somewhat the gold >> standard for good web accessibility support such as ARIA. >> >> CB >> >> On 11/29/11 3:30 PM, matthew Dyer wrote: >> >> Growl Notifications readout >> Traci <our4p...@gmail.com> Nov 29 01:47PM -0800 >> >> Those of you that use growl, how do you have voiceover set up to handle the >> system dialogues that pop up? >> >> It annoys me how every time growl notifies me, I'm pulled from my current >> application, and then I have no idea what I'm being notified about. >> >> Am I missing some setting here? >> >> Thanks, >> Traci >> Sent by Macbook Air Mail >> >> Cody <cdog2...@gmail.com> Nov 29 05:03PM -0500 >> >> am I wrong or does growel now cost $1.99? where can one get this from? I >> tried getting it from google but didn't really try all that hard, but only >> found some sort of frame work. I found a few growel things in the app store, >> but I wasn't sure what to select. This would be nice to have skype read >> messages automatically >> On Nov 29, 2011, at 4:47 PM, Traci wrote: >> >> >> Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> Nov 29 05:33PM -0500 >> >> Yup, Growl has decided to start charging. I questioned this because some >> apps avoid implementing accessible notification by just pointing folks >> to Growl. While not expensive, it does mean that VO users will have to >> shell out and set up more to gain the same access. I has asked for >> comments on this but apparently it bothered me more than most others :) >> >> CB >> >> On 11/29/11 5:03 PM, Cody wrote: >> >> Traci <our4p...@gmail.com> Nov 29 02:38PM -0800 >> >> I'm still using growl for free. I'm assuming it is because I haven't updated. >> >> Any feedback on growl notifications and voiceOver? >> >> Traci >> Sent by Macbook Air Mail >> >> On Nov 29, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: >> >> >> Sorry but I gotta ask again | VMWare Key Mapping >> "Shawn Krasniuk" <bigbigshawn....@gmail.com> Nov 29 04:28PM -0600 >> >> Hey all. I'd like to know this information too since none of the keys that >> I've tried to remap work. I need to have a key that works as the System >> Access modifier key which is pretty much the same as the Jawskey. I know >> that I'll be going back to Lion soon so I won't need the version of Fusion >> that I have which is version 2, but that won't be until a few weeks when my >> computer exam is done. So until then, it would be nice if I could use my >> screen reader properly. >> >> Shawn >> >> Burning Itunes purchases to CD? >> Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> Nov 29 04:40PM -0500 >> >> Hi, >> >> This isn't exactly true. that purchases online will pass CD purchases. >> Online sales has already surpassed CD sales for a year or 2. Its more that >> the revenue from online sales will surpass that of CD sales. You must also >> keep in mind the price of a CD over the years. I remember in the 1990s, it >> was common place to get a new album for $16, $17, or $18 before tax. These >> prices have gone down tremendously to entice people to pick up CDs. That >> accounts for much of the lost revenue from this media format. Its hard to >> over inflat your prices when people can just get the album at home, with no >> physical media for like $10. And if they want, just by a song for for a >> dollar or a little more. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> On Nov 29, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: >> >> >> Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> Nov 29 04:41PM -0500 >> >> Hi, >> >> just send it to the e-mail at the end of this message. >> >> hth >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> On Nov 29, 2011, at 4:40 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >> >> "Mr. L. Alexander" <turningbyto...@gmail.com> Nov 29 09:42PM >> >> that's why I left the music business. >> >> On 29 Nov 2011, at 21:40, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >> > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> Mr. L. Alexander. >> Free Macs For The Blind. >> E-Mail: freemacsfortheb...@mac-access.net >> Direct line: 07936 877500 >> >> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working >> apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! >> >> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a >> copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >> >> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to >> help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >> http://www.mac-access.net >> >> Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> Nov 29 04:43PM -0500 >> >> You left it because its harder to rip people off? lol >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> On Nov 29, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: >> >> >> "Mr. L. Alexander" <turningbyto...@gmail.com> Nov 29 09:45PM >> >> no. because the way the music industry is these days, you get dodgy media >> companies, managers who rip you off and then there's technology. don't get >> me started. I'm a long retired musician. better off to be honest. >> >> lew >> >> On 29 Nov 2011, at 21:43, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >> > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> Mr. L. Alexander. >> Free Macs For The Blind. >> E-Mail: freemacsfortheb...@mac-access.net >> Direct line: 07936 877500 >> >> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working >> apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! >> >> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a >> copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. >> >> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to >> help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >> http://www.mac-access.net >> >> Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> Nov 29 05:25PM -0500 >> >> Agreed. You would think the profit margin from downloading a $10 album >> would be greater than CDs after the cost of duplication, shipping and >> store frontage/reselling is accounted for. What has changed is the >> labels can't stuff a bunch of junk on an album which you bought for the >> two 'good songs'. If the do you'll give them the $2 it's worth by just >> buying those two tracks. I think they also benefited from the media >> conversions as folks migrated from LPs to tapes to CDs. That migration >> over time generated a lot of revenue, which has pretty much dried up at >> this point. I remember dubbing LPs to casette and later re-buying some >> of those LPs on CD. At this point the quality is 'good enough' that most >> will never upgrade again. As has been pointed out on this list before, >> imperical studies found that more people chose the mp3 version of a >> track over the uncompressed version so something about that codec makes >> your iTunes library more appealing to listen to. The other great thing >> is portability. I used to carry a good sized "wallet" of CDs around and >> a portable CD player etc. which is now replaced by an iPhone. The >> iPhones now have enough capacity that most people just dump their whole >> library or, at a minimum, don't have to whittle the list down much. With >> more ubiquitous wireless access, even that need will go away over time. >> Why store it all when I can just play anything via the internet on >> demand. I'm not sold on that yet as I still like the idea of 'ownership' >> of my media. I still have the first Rush Moving Pictures CD I bough back >> in the early 80s. >> >> CB >> >> On 11/29/11 4:40 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >> iphone4s and triple home >> Paul Erkens <paul.erk...@gmail.com> Nov 29 11:02PM +0100 >> >> To add to this: I remember reading somewhere, that if set up a new iphone >> with ios 5, the 4 s will have it, if you don't hear anything and you wait 1 >> or 2 minutes, then voiceover would come on automatically. Maybe Kevin Ciao >> will know this for sure. >> >> On Nov 29, 2011, at 5:03 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: >> >> >> Questions about sound check >> Traci <our4p...@gmail.com> Nov 29 01:44PM -0800 >> >> Thanks all, >> >> I'll have to play with this sound check further. I'm looking forward to see >> how it is handled with the Nano docked. 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