Hi, I have a 15 inch macbook pro and I to, have these issues where the downloads window doesn't show up. Matt Sent from my mac Twitter: matt692 msn and aim: matt...@live.com skype: blindman3221
On 2012-03-20, at 4:09 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Søren, > > No, I've never had a MacBook larger than 13 inches. And I've never typed > more than occasionally on desktop Macs, so I haven't experienced these > issues. This sounds like the issues are screen-resolution/size specific. I > wonder whether anyone else with the larger Mac laptops can report on their > experiences with Safari. I do note that the major reason I've found to delay > upgrades between major releases of Mac OS X is usually the new behavior of > Safari. Also, the first system versions after a new release may show up more > VoiceOver focus issues than previously experienced in mature, stable releases. > > Thanks for reporting on your experience. > > Best, > > Esther > > On Mar 20, 2012, at 9:16 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: > >> Hi Esther. >> >> So you have a Macbook pro 15 inch? Safari works differently with VOiceover >> on a 15 inch Macbook. I've experienced things like focusing issues in java >> windows, the mouse getting stuck on the desctop while moving it to the >> webpage with VO command f5, and clicking by pressing VO shift spacebar and >> the other weird issue by bringing up the downloads folder. >> I know people who have a macbook 13 inch and an iMac, where this doesn't >> happen. >> Best regards: >> Søren Jensen >> Mail & MSN: >> s...@coolfortheblind.dk >> Website: >> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ >> >> Den 20/03/2012 kl. 17.35 skrev Esther: >> >>> Hi Søren, >>> >>> That's interesting. I'm using a MacBook Air with Lion. When I go to full >>> screen mode by pressing command ctrl f in Safari, my toolbar is displayed >>> even if I have hidden it. I can check this by navigating to the menu bar >>> with either ctrl F2 or VO m, then going to the "View" menu and arrowing >>> down. If I check this menu before toggling to full screen mode, the first >>> entry shows as "Show Toolbar". And in this mode, with my toolbar hidden, >>> when I press ctrl option l there is no downloads window displayed, even >>> though VoiceOver says "Show Downloads". If I show my toolbar, either by >>> using the "View" menu option or the shortcut for toggling the toolbar >>> between show and hide, which is ctrl shift backslash on an English language >>> input keyboard, then the downloads window will show up when I press ctrl >>> option l. >>> >>> Similarly, making Safari run in full screen mode by toggling this on with >>> command ctrl f will also let my downloads window show up when I press ctrl >>> option l. But what happens here is that my toolbar is forcibly shown when >>> I'm in full screen mode. If I navigate to the menu bar and check the >>> "View" menu while in full screen mode, the first menu entry will show up as >>> "Hide Toolbar" and will also be announced as "dimmed", indicating that I >>> can't change this. Furthermore, I can test whether the toolbar is present >>> by using the shortcut ctrl F5 for navigating to the toolbar. When my >>> toolbar is hidden, pressing ctrl F5 will not take me to the toolbar, >>> because it's hidden. As previously stated, in this mode I can't see the >>> downloads window when I press command option l. If I show my toolbar, and >>> am not in full screen mode, then pressing ctrl F5 takes me to the "Back >>> button" of the toolbar. Now, even if my toolbar is hidden when I am not in >>> full screen mode, once I press command ctrl f, and VoiceOver says "Enter >>> Full Screen", it becomes visible. If I press ctrl F5, I'll be taken to >>> the "Back button", and I check the "View" menu, "Hide Toolbar" appears as >>> dimmed. And because the toolbar is now forcibly shown, even though it was >>> originally hidden when not in full screen mode, pressing command option l >>> now shows me my downloads folder. >>> >>> I wonder if the difference in behavior, where I can view the downloads >>> folder when the toolbar is not hidden without having to run Safari in full >>> screen mode, is another one of those instances of English-specific shortcut >>> key mapping? I know that UK users are also able to view the downloads >>> folder if their toolbar is not hidden, without having to put Safari into >>> full screen mode. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> >>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 4:43 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: >>> >>>> Hi. >>>> >>>> On my Macbook pro 15 inch, I can only bring up the downloads folder if I'm >>>> running safari in full screen. If I don't have the full screen activated >>>> by pressing command ctrl f, then Voiceover just says something like >>>> showing the downoads folder. I have not hidden my toolbar. >>>> Best regards: >>>> Søren Jensen >>>> Mail & MSN: >>>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk >>>> Website: >>>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ >>>> >>>> Den 20/03/2012 kl. 08.24 skrev Esther: >>>> >>>>> Hi May, >>>>> >>>>> Command-Option-L to bring up the Safari downloads window only works if >>>>> you do not have your toolbar hidden. If your toolbar is hidden, then even >>>>> though VoiceOver says "Show Downloads" when you use this shortcut, >>>>> nothing is displayed. So you might press Command-Shift-Backslash to >>>>> toggle your Safari toolbar to be shown before trying that shortcut. >>>>> Also, you can navigate to a "Show Downloads" button in the toolbar and >>>>> press it with VO-Space to show your downloads window. I have the vague >>>>> impression that when I first upgraded to Lion, I may have had to press >>>>> that button once, to later get my downloads window to show. Again, this >>>>> only works if your toolbar is not hidden. You can press Command-Option-F >>>>> to navigate to the Google Search field, then VO-Right arrow to the "Show >>>>> Downloads" button, and press it with VO-Space. >>>>> >>>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Esther >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 19, 2012, at 9:08 PM, May McDonald wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hmm, ok when I do that it says show downloads but still nothing. >>>>>> Something else I need to do maybe? >>>>>> On 2012-03-20, at 2:59 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> wrong command. Its command option L to bring up the downloads window. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> hth >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>>>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 2:58 AM, May McDonald <mcdonald....@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good evening everyone. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can someone please tell me how I go about getting the download window >>>>>>>> to pop up like it us to with SL in Lion? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Doing command l then going to the download button is not doing it >>>>>>>> which is what silly Apple told me to do. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> May and Prince Noah >>>>>>>> >>> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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