I've tried both, but I have no idea which is better, or even what the difference really is. I have read the help for it, and I am very familiar with what a DOM is, but i can't see a difference between the functionality of both modes when I'm using either one. Yes, I have the arrow keys down well enough. However, back to my original question: if there's a long p element (paragraph), how do I read line by line, word by word, and so on? Right arrowing will just skip the whole thing, or jump to the top of it if I move back to it.
On 5/1/12, Jonathan C. Cohn <jonc...@cox.net> wrote: > Up / down arrows will move the web rotar selection and left right will move > by chunks. Do you use Group or Dom navigation? > > Best wishes, > Jonathan > > Jonathan C. Cohn > jonc...@cox.net > > > > On Apr 29, 2012, at 9:15 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > >> I have quick nav on. However, the left/right arrows don't seem to >> navigate reliably (I ended up at the bottom of a page, and you can't >> read by smaller chunks inside, say, a paragraph of text). Say you're >> reading an article and aren't sure how an oddly spoken phrase is >> spelled. On Windows, or in an edit area on Mac, you'd arrow to the >> line, then move word by word to the phrase, then read word by word or >> character by character. How would you do this (efficiently, not by >> moving the rotor all over the place and hoping you don't hit the wrong >> key and jump out of the entire article) in Chrome or Safari? Even the >> "lines" setting on the rotor is not very useful - I still have no idea >> what it thinks a "line" is, and it never seems to move me anywhere. >> >> On 4/29/12, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I haven't had much luck with chrome vox. All it does is crash chrome on >>> my >>> machine. If you want to just navigate with arrows, you should just turn >>> on >>> quick nav by pressing the left and right arrow keys at the same time. >>> >>> JMO. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> On Apr 29, 2012, at 8:52 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I've heard of Chromevox and I even tried it a while back, but I found it >>>> confusing and difficult to work with. Still, if I can arrow around, it >>>> might be worth looking into again. Are there any podcasts on it? >>>> On 29 Apr 2012, at 20:49, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: >>>> >>>>> You might want to try using chrome vox. If you hit the command key >>>>> twice >>>>> while in chromevox then all the shortcuts are able to be done without >>>>> holding down command-control. Chrome Vox does do things a bit >>>>> different >>>>> for arrows. Up/Down is your primary navigator and left / right >>>>> navigates >>>>> at a smaller incrment. >>>>> >>>>> So if up/down is reading sentences then left / right will navigate by >>>>> word. In a table however all four arrow keys while in Object >>>>> navigation >>>>> will navigate by table cell. >>>>> >>>>> I am not sure if dom/group works in Chomebox. In Safari and Webkit, >>>>> DOM >>>>> mode navigates much like a windows browser with speech. Group mode >>>>> combines major clusters of information and will navigate as things are >>>>> layed out on the screen to the most part. >>>>> Jonathan C. Cohn >>>>> jonc...@cox.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 29, 2012, at 8:21 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> I am using Chrome for a web browser, and I have a few questions about >>>>>> reading and navigating web pages. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. In the vo utility, you can choose either DOM order or grouping. >>>>>> Which >>>>>> is better? >>>>>> 2. Is there a way to disable the web rotor, so the arrows will act >>>>>> like >>>>>> they do in text reading or editing? With letter navigation, I see the >>>>>> web rotor as redundant and I'd rather use the arrow keys in the usual >>>>>> text navigation way. >>>>>> Thanks in advance. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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