Hi,

pressing VO command H brings you to the next heading.  Adding shift to that 
goes to the previous heading.

Ricardo Walker
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On Jul 2, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Jesus Garcia <jesusga...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So, long as we are talking about fixes one would like to see I would also
> like to see a little easier navigation of headings on web pages. Perhaps as
> a relative new user to the mac I am missing something, but I find it easier
> to navigate HTML headings in web pages with windows screen readers then with
> voice over. Again this may be my missing something major. And yes the
> dictionary would be nice my name especially I would like to hear it with its
> Spanish pronunciation again a miner issue, but one I would like to be able
> to correct.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 18:37
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or
> squashed in Mountain Lion?
> 
> Hmmm I remember a while back putting a list of 15 improvements.  I can't
> remember them all now, so perhaps I have just learnt to live without them.
> I did report them to Apple though as bugs and feature enhancements.
> 
> The VoiceOver busy is the biggest annoyance which is caused by  the pathetic
> slow buffering system voice over uses.  So I would like to see that
> rewritten from the ground up.  There are a few random performance bugs that
> happen now and then which require me to switch voice over off then back on
> again.  So overall performance could do with being improved.
> 
> I would also like to know what web page I am looking at when switching
> between tabs, being told that is an HTML page is not exactly helpful.  I
> would also like to navigate line by line just by pressing the down arrow or
> up key.  VO still needs a bit of work when reporting how many HMTL  elements
> are on a web page, some windows screen readers seem to find more tables and
> headings than VO,  especially in the buggy rotor.
> 
> I would like the ability to edit form fields in a PDF with Preview, but I
> believe this is coming in the next Mountain Lion release (according to
> Apple's website).  
> 
> I would appreciate MIDI event editing in GarageBand, and a huge update to
> iWork.  There just is not enough accessible productive software on the Mac.
> There is more to using a Mac than just Skype and Mail surely?
> 
> Not sure if that bug still exists when using the real speak voices where the
> pitch used to shift up and down randomly.  I stopped using those voices as
> it became too annoying.
> 
> I would also like the ability to edit voice over's dictionary.  For example
> if you type third as in the number 3 followed by the letters r and d, you
> get 3rd (three road), surely this should be a third?  So I think the ability
> to edit some of VO's assumptions would be nice, or maybe VO should grow up
> and become a tad more intelligent.  I would like more control over how VO
> reads out numbers too.
> 
> Maybe developers should also be given the option to name what VO calls an
> HTML area, as something else?  For example when using adium the chat window
> is called an HTML area, am sure a chat window or conversation window would
> be more meaningful.
> 
> Last but not least, I find VO a bit slow when first entering the iTunes
> store.  The page takes a while to render.  Well actually visually it does
> not, but VO seems to think it does.  Actually come to mention it when VO
> says something is busy, a sighted person can still move the mouse and
> perform the action they require, it is just VO's buffer which is busy.
> 
> I spotted another bug today too.  When ordering a smart case for my iPad, VO
> was unable to read out the colour options.  When trying to select a colour,
> VO simply said "space radio button" for each of the 6 colours.  The work
> around seemed to be select a colour, go back to the top of the screen and
> read out the description to see if the default green had changed.  Or look
> in the basket and hope to god you have not selected pink.  I eventually
> performed this task via the Apple Store app on my iPhone which performed
> perfectly.
> 
> Chris 
> On 2 Jul 2012, at 19:16, Daniel McGee wrote:
> 
>> Hi all, a while ago on this list I saw someone mention that they would
> like so and so bug to be fixed in Mountain Lion. 
>> I would just really like to start a discussion on if there are not many
> enhancements to Voiceover in the next OS, then what bugs would you like
> fixed and hope Apple has done there job with it. 
>> I'll go 1st. 
>> For me its safari. two things for me. 
>> 1. Now and then when I go back a page with CMD left bracket Voiceover
> doesn't announce my list of headings or links that I have set in VO utility.
> 
>> 2. continuing this previous page thing, because I don't always know when
> the page is fully loaded when going back, I get the lovely "Voiceover Busy!"
> Not! 
>> This is using Lion V7.4 and Safari 5.1.7 
>> 
>> So what are yours? 
>> 
>> I hope this will become an interesting topic because I'm interested to see
> what people can come up with and I'm sure there will be some good ones! 
>> 
>> So everyone, the dance floor is yours! LOL 
>> 
>> Daniel   
>> 
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