Hi again Sharon.
I have been so frustrated with the VO space command not working the way I'm 
used to that I got desperate and double tapped the track pad to see what would 
happen. It was not turned on, but I may consider turning it on if no other 
reason than it will take the place of this thing. Quite by accident, I found 
that even with the track pad commander turned off, it will make the selection. 
I did have one time when it didn't, but I will test some more and see if it 
will work. Maybe you can join me in testing it, too. 



Eugenia Firth
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On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Sharon Ballantyne <sbal...@nexicom.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Has anyone got a fix workaround for VO spacebar being non-responsive?
> Also has anyone got a workaround for theV O F5  toggle not working is there 
> some other way or
> Assignment for the voice over to be turned off and on?
> thanks,
> Sharon
> On 2012-07-31, at 12:28 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yeah, but it works much better now than it ever did in SL or Lion. :)
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Red.Falcon <velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there!
>>> Sorry but I did not see you mention if you calibrated the Mac to your voice 
>>> this should be helpful!
>>> Colin
>>> And that feature has been around for a long time It is on my iMac Still on 
>>> snowy kitty which I got 2009 and it was there then!
>>> Colin
>>> 
>>> On 31 Jul 2012, at 16:59, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Donna,
>>>> 
>>>> I've not gone with the F10 idea, as F10 is also mute on the Mac, which can 
>>>> cause issues for obvious reasons…
>>>> 
>>>> I've used the key directly below esc, however, whilst I can make it work 
>>>> every now and then not any other time… I tried the alternative of using 
>>>> the constantly listen option, being able to call out, computer what time 
>>>> is it, rather floats my boat…
>>>> 
>>>> neither option are working for me…! any thoughts.
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Neil Barnfather
>>>> 
>>>> Talks List Administrator
>>>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>>>> 
>>>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple 
>>>> iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
>>>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>>>> 
>>>> URL: - www.talknav.com
>>>> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com
>>>> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 31 Jul 2012, at 16:56, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Neal,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, you need to press and hold the key.  I have also found that it helps 
>>>>> to hold it for about a half second before you start speaking.  Also, in 
>>>>> system prefs make sure you have the right listening method checked.  It's 
>>>>> in Accessible Items under Listening key tab.  You have two choices, one 
>>>>> is listen when key is pressed, the other is listen when keyword is spoken.
>>>>> HTH,
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav 
>>>>> <for...@talknav.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have found it thank you, my question now is why is it not working!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have enabled it all, and turned the feature on, yet, even by changing 
>>>>>> the command key and restarting nothing happens.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> what is unclear, is am I supposed to press and hold down the key I 
>>>>>> nominate?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thanks for any hands on practical usage info.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Neil Barnfather
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Talks List Administrator
>>>>>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an 
>>>>>> Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
>>>>>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> URL: - www.talknav.com
>>>>>> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com
>>>>>> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 31 Jul 2012, at 16:43, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What you are talking about is speakable items. Go to system 
>>>>>>> preferences, accessibility, and find it in the table of options. From 
>>>>>>> there, select the tabs you want and configure things as necessary. I 
>>>>>>> recommend going to the commands tab, then the table of command sets, 
>>>>>>> and turning on everything.
>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav 
>>>>>>> <for...@talknav.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> sorry, where do you enable that bit though, I mean I can dictate no 
>>>>>>>> issue, but, how does one ask what day it is etc?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Neil Barnfather
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Talks List Administrator
>>>>>>>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an 
>>>>>>>> Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
>>>>>>>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> URL: - www.talknav.com
>>>>>>>> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com
>>>>>>>> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 31 Jul 2012, at 01:48, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> These are commands you can give, like "what time is it" or "open 
>>>>>>>>> iPhoto". You can even select buttons shown in the currently open 
>>>>>>>>> dialog just by speaking them. If you are at all familiar with Windows 
>>>>>>>>> speech recognition, it's like dictation is the text input part of 
>>>>>>>>> that and speakable objects is the other part that accepts commands 
>>>>>>>>> for system operations.
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Ok, easy enough. What is this about speakable Items I'm seeing how 
>>>>>>>>>> does that effect this. Sorry I'm so late coming into this, I've been 
>>>>>>>>>> at work today and not able to keep up with this a lot as they 
>>>>>>>>>> haven't upgraded us yet. Thanks for your patience guys. 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> You go into system preferences, then accessibility. Interact with a 
>>>>>>>>>>> table and select dictation. Turn it on, then follow the dialogs. If 
>>>>>>>>>>> you are using a usb microphone, you may have to going to sound 
>>>>>>>>>>> preferences and set the input source to be that USB microphone.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:38 PM, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm just getting used to Mountain Lion. How do you get into 
>>>>>>>>>>>> dictation, would love to try it out. Thanks. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 7:23 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well Alex, good for you. I love the dictation as well. I am 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> talking into a Griffin IMike with a Gigaware  are microphone 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> attached to it. And, my air conditioner is going in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> background. Not bad Huh?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have only made small corrections to this dictation.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype name:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 6:46 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am also having great luck with dictation. I have a cheap 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desktop microphone going through a cheap usb sound card (since 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mac doesn't support direct input of non-powered mics) but it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is still doing really well. In my quick tests, it made no 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mistakes. This, paired with that amazing speakable items 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature, will make me an even lazier person than I already am. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ironically, I didn't dictate this entire message. I did, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however, dictate these last two sentences. I should also add 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that there's a ceiling fan going in the background.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap
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