My favorite solution is to use track pad commander and make selections or press buttons with a one finger double tap. Pressing VO + space one key at a time and releasing them at the same time works, but it is awkward and slower.
I have the Apple wireless keyboard with my Mac Mini. Are there any keyboards which don't have that issue with the VO+space command? Kristyn On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Hi again Sharon. > I have been so frustrated with the VO space command not working the way I'm > used to that I got desperate and double tapped the track pad to see what > would happen. It was not turned on, but I may consider turning it on if no > other reason than it will take the place of this thing. Quite by accident, I > found that even with the track pad commander turned off, it will make the > selection. I did have one time when it didn't, but I will test some more and > see if it will work. Maybe you can join me in testing it, too. > > > > Eugenia Firth > gigifi...@sbcglobal.net > > > > On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Sharon Ballantyne <sbal...@nexicom.net> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Has anyone got a fix workaround for VO spacebar being non-responsive? >> Also has anyone got a workaround for theV O F5 toggle not working is there >> some other way or >> Assignment for the voice over to be turned off and on? >> thanks, >> Sharon >> On 2012-07-31, at 12:28 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: >> >>> Yeah, but it works much better now than it ever did in SL or Lion. :) >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Red.Falcon <velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi there! >>>> Sorry but I did not see you mention if you calibrated the Mac to your >>>> voice this should be helpful! >>>> Colin >>>> And that feature has been around for a long time It is on my iMac Still on >>>> snowy kitty which I got 2009 and it was there then! >>>> Colin >>>> >>>> On 31 Jul 2012, at 16:59, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: >>>> >>>>> Donna, >>>>> >>>>> I've not gone with the F10 idea, as F10 is also mute on the Mac, which >>>>> can cause issues for obvious reasons… >>>>> >>>>> I've used the key directly below esc, however, whilst I can make it work >>>>> every now and then not any other time… I tried the alternative of using >>>>> the constantly listen option, being able to call out, computer what time >>>>> is it, rather floats my boat… >>>>> >>>>> neither option are working for me…! any thoughts. >>>>> >>>>> thanks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Neil Barnfather >>>>> >>>>> Talks List Administrator >>>>> Twitter @neilbarnfather >>>>> >>>>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple >>>>> iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your >>>>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >>>>> >>>>> URL: - www.talknav.com >>>>> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >>>>> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 31 Jul 2012, at 16:56, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Neal, >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, you need to press and hold the key. I have also found that it >>>>>> helps to hold it for about a half second before you start speaking. >>>>>> Also, in system prefs make sure you have the right listening method >>>>>> checked. It's in Accessible Items under Listening key tab. You have >>>>>> two choices, one is listen when key is pressed, the other is listen when >>>>>> keyword is spoken. >>>>>> HTH, >>>>>> Donna >>>>>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav >>>>>> <for...@talknav.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have found it thank you, my question now is why is it not working! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have enabled it all, and turned the feature on, yet, even by changing >>>>>>> the command key and restarting nothing happens. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> what is unclear, is am I supposed to press and hold down the key I >>>>>>> nominate? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thanks for any hands on practical usage info. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Neil Barnfather >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Talks List Administrator >>>>>>> Twitter @neilbarnfather >>>>>>> >>>>>>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an >>>>>>> Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your >>>>>>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> URL: - www.talknav.com >>>>>>> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >>>>>>> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 31 Jul 2012, at 16:43, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What you are talking about is speakable items. Go to system >>>>>>>> preferences, accessibility, and find it in the table of options. From >>>>>>>> there, select the tabs you want and configure things as necessary. I >>>>>>>> recommend going to the commands tab, then the table of command sets, >>>>>>>> and turning on everything. >>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav >>>>>>>> <for...@talknav.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> sorry, where do you enable that bit though, I mean I can dictate no >>>>>>>>> issue, but, how does one ask what day it is etc? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Neil Barnfather >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Talks List Administrator >>>>>>>>> Twitter @neilbarnfather >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an >>>>>>>>> Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all >>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> URL: - www.talknav.com >>>>>>>>> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com >>>>>>>>> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 31 Jul 2012, at 01:48, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> These are commands you can give, like "what time is it" or "open >>>>>>>>>> iPhoto". You can even select buttons shown in the currently open >>>>>>>>>> dialog just by speaking them. If you are at all familiar with >>>>>>>>>> Windows speech recognition, it's like dictation is the text input >>>>>>>>>> part of that and speakable objects is the other part that accepts >>>>>>>>>> commands for system operations. >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ok, easy enough. What is this about speakable Items I'm seeing how >>>>>>>>>>> does that effect this. Sorry I'm so late coming into this, I've >>>>>>>>>>> been at work today and not able to keep up with this a lot as they >>>>>>>>>>> haven't upgraded us yet. Thanks for your patience guys. >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You go into system preferences, then accessibility. Interact with >>>>>>>>>>>> a table and select dictation. Turn it on, then follow the dialogs. >>>>>>>>>>>> If you are using a usb microphone, you may have to going to sound >>>>>>>>>>>> preferences and set the input source to be that USB microphone. >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:38 PM, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm just getting used to Mountain Lion. How do you get into >>>>>>>>>>>>> dictation, would love to try it out. Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 7:23 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well Alex, good for you. I love the dictation as well. I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>> talking into a Griffin IMike with a Gigaware are microphone >>>>>>>>>>>>>> attached to it. And, my air conditioner is going in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> background. Not bad Huh? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have only made small corrections to this dictation.? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype name: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> barefootedray >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 6:46 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am also having great luck with dictation. I have a cheap >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desktop microphone going through a cheap usb sound card (since >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mac doesn't support direct input of non-powered mics) but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is still doing really well. In my quick tests, it made no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mistakes. This, paired with that amazing speakable items >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature, will make me an even lazier person than I already am. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ironically, I didn't dictate this entire message. I did, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however, dictate these last two sentences. I should also add >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that there's a ceiling fan going in the background. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>>>>>>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com; 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