Hi Brian,

I assume you continue to use the  Mac, and as a result, your feedback is 
important.  Good luck as we both continue to traverse the Mac world!

Les
On Aug 14, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well put Les. I have almost given up on a lot of tables on the mac,
> and numbers is driving me crazy, as sometimes it works and other times
> it doesn't. I know Apple is working on these things, and they aren't
> the easiest problems to fix, but hey, I lack patience.
> 
> On Aug 12, 11:27 pm, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Brian,
>> 
>> Keep on posting please.  Like you, I'm a big believer in Apple and what 
>> they've done, but Apple currently cannot handle all of our needs.  Examples 
>> would be reading of tables and reading of pdf documents.  I use my Mac 
>> virtually all of the time but still use Windows on occasion for the 
>> formentioned tasks, and I'm glad I have that option.
>> 
>> Les
>> On Aug 12, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Awesome just found the help document. Ah, I believe I was hitting the
>>> command key and needed to hit the option key. Here is the help
>>> document in case anyone else is having problems
>> 
>>> http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/English.lproj/_1201.html
>> 
>>> On Aug 12, 11:49 am, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hey all,
>> 
>>>> Trying to copy some text in safari and have run in to some issues, not
>>>> sure what I am doing wrong, and it is probably a setting, so wanted to
>>>> see if anyone knew. It is weird as at first this was working, but it
>>>> doesn't seem like the cursor is following VO and I have checked my
>>>> settings in F8 and have toggled them all on and off, but nothing
>>>> changed. When I go down in to the middle of a paragraph and wanted to
>>>> select a certain line, the cursor doesn't seem to follow voiceover and
>>>> seems to be selecting a few lines earlier. Here is what I am doing. I
>>>> first interact with the text, then read it word by word with VO right
>>>> arrow. I get to the insertion point where I want to start selecting
>>>> text, and click Command shift right arrow, but it starts selecting
>>>> text somewhere else on the page, not sure what I am doing wrong here,
>>>> or if I have a setting set incorrectly. I have tried this selecting
>>>> text with Quick Nav on and off, and even tried using the trackpad to
>>>> select text, but again it was selecting the wrong area. Any help would
>>>> be greatly appreciated. Thanks
>> 
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