Thanks, Esther. Nothing seems to be working -- it is so odd; I have absolutely 
never experienced anything remotely like this before. 
Christine
On Aug 15, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Esther <mori...@mac.com> wrote:

> Hi Christine,
> 
> I think that you have to log out and log back in again after making
> your changes to Java Preferences in order for the changes to take
> effect.  I assume you mean that you checked the check box for "Enable
> applet plug-in and Web Start applications" on the General tab of Java
> preferences.  If accepting the new certificate, checking that box, and
> then exiting Java preferences and logging out and back in again don't
> fix things for you then you may have to call Apple.  I'll point you to
> the instructions for using Mouse Keys to move to the tabs of the Java
> Preferemces menu from the mac-access list discussions.  I understand
> that the entry under System Preferences in ML is now "Accessibility"
> and not "Unversal Access", but this should make sense:
> • Re: Mouse keys
> http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access%40mac-access.net/msg11321.html
> That post also gives a link to an earlier post,"Moving your cursor
> with
> Mouse Keys as an accessibility work around for Java Preferences", with
> more detailed instructions.  Basically, there are 4 tabs under Java
> Preferences: "General", "Security", "Network", and "Advanced". Each
> tab takes about 70 horizontal mouse key presses to move across.  The
> detailed post goes through everything in detail from scratch, but it
> does assume you have previously set your verbosity in VoiceOver
> Utility to announce what is under the mouse with 0 seconds delay so
> VoiceOver can tell you what is under the mouse when you move to these
> tabs with mouse keys. You can also move with your TrackPad without
> using Mouse Keys if you only have to change tabs once, but if you end
> up having to check multiple tabs and go back and forth between tabs in
> a single session, it's simply easier to use Mouse Keys because you can
> navigate precisely where you need to go.
> 
> This has been written up as detailed bug reports to Apple.  I think
> you only need to log out and log in after you make your changes, but
> if you need to look at other entries under Java preferences you can
> use the instructions from the mac-access list posts to navigate.  I'm
> not sure how you can uncheck items within tables on some of the tabs
> if you need to, though -- VO announces "empty table" in these cases.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Aug 15, 10:09 am, Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Went into Java preferences, and there appear to be some edit boxes which I 
>> have no clue how to handle.  I've tried checking and unchecking enabling 
>> plug-ins, etc., but have the same result on the banking site. I have no idea 
>> what else to do except call Apple. I suspect I'll have to bring it in so 
>> they can look over my shoulder.
>> Christine
>> On Aug 15, 2012, at 12:56 AM, Esther <mori...@mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi Christine,
>> 
>>> I read your original post again, and noted the mention of Java, which
>>> is used by some banking sites.  Java is not installed by default under
>>> Mountain Lion, and depending on whether you upgraded or performed a
>>> clean install of ML you may have a version of Java that is not
>>> compatible or needs to have a certificate deleted.  I'm not clear on
>>> the details, because there are accessibility issues with running the
>>> Java preferences application, so I can't easily check by looking at my
>>> own setup. (We had to delete an old certificate for a Blackboard user
>>> on another list, and use mouse keys to move to change the tabs).
>> 
>>> One Apple discussion web site reported this recent exchange:
>>> Installed  mountain lion but the web application I use for internet
>>> banking requires java and there does not seem to be an update for java
>>> in OSX ML
>>> Reply:
>>> Type "java" into spotlight. Make sure the check boxes are selected in
>>> the java preferences.
>> 
>>> The original poster stated this worked like a charm, but I have no
>>> idea which check boxes are referred to given the accessibility issues
>>> and the fact that I'm still running Lion.  The Spotlight instruction
>>> is the way to launch java preferences.
>> 
>>> HTH as a starting point. Cheers,
>> 
>>> Esther
>> 
>>> On Aug 14, 4:22 pm, Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I did go into reset Safari, kept checked anything and everything I thought 
>>>> might help -- I did not see reference to emptying caches, cookies, or 
>>>> anything resembling that. I reset top web sites; reset history; unchecked 
>>>> saved names and passwords; I think I left only two or three things 
>>>> unchecked. Still, when I go into my bank's web site, it dumps me as soon 
>>>> as I get to the log-in page, or right after logging in. It is literally 
>>>> the only web site where I have experienced this; I cannot replicate it 
>>>> anywhere else where I must log in. Clearly is something about my computer, 
>>>> though, not the bank, not Safari, not VoiceOver.
>>>> Christine
>>>> P.S. My husband has not upgraded to ML, so that is the one and only 
>>>> difference I can think of.
>> 
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