There's a reason for this.
The higher quality voices are actually sampled, like, from a real human, so
obviusly being it's an actual sampled recording, you're not gonna be able to
move the pitch.
I can't speak for the compact voices as I never use 'em.
Chris.
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From: "Missy Hoppe" <mitmee....@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:16 AM
Subject: RE: voices for the mack?
Unfortunately, the premium quality nuance voices don't allow pitch to be
adjusted. I really wish they did. The compact
versions allow for pitch adjustment, but the quality is horrible, at least
in my opinion.
-----Original Message-----
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:11 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: voices for the mack?
You do have to choose Customize. One thing that frustrates me about Lee is
that unlike Alex, I cannot change pitch or
intonation for some reason: just rate and volume. Anyone know why this is?
Christine
On Aug 23, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Lisette Wesseling <lisettewessel...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi
Yes there's Karen and Lee, and they are free.
Go into VO utility and choose the "voice" row of the table there. Look
around in there. YOu may need to choose "customise"
to find all the possible options. Karen premium is what I use. You need to
download her but she is worth the megabytes. No
charge though.
Lisette
On 24/08/2012, at 1:19 PM, Chenelle Hancock <filmchenelle1...@gmail.com>
wrote:
hi all,
i wanted to know if there were any australian voices for the mack that
one could purchase?
thanks for your help.
sincerely, chenelle
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Today's Topic Summary
Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
• dumb mail question [2 Updates]
• a new little thing about Mountain Lion [8 Updates]
• Speaking rate in Voiceover [4 Updates]
• Is Facebook Now Completely Broken [1 Update]
• Best GPS app for iPhone [2 Updates]
• 1password accessibility [1 Update]
• Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza? [1 Update]
• there's an update to Mountain Lion available [1 Update]
• TextEdit question [5 Updates]
dumb mail question
Bill Holton <bill32...@gmail.com> Aug 23 03:52PM -0400
Hi.
What is the best voiceover command to use that will get mail to
consistently open a web URL insight email?
Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> Aug 23 06:10PM -0400
Hi,
I would navigate by character to the url itself then press VO space. If
that fails you, do the same but instead of
pressing VO space, press VO shift M to bring up the context menu and select
to open link or something like that.
hth
Ricardo Walker
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a new little thing about Mountain Lion Joseph Norton
<joseph.nor...@gmail.com> Aug 23 04:15PM -0400
Well, they finally did it!
Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they
finally give you a progress report.
Not a big thing, but, it's a tiny improvement.
Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do.
Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> Aug 23 03:18PM -0500
So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install windows
using bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for
yet more work to be done?
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
barefootedray
"Christopher-Mark gilland" <clgillan...@gmail.com> Aug 23 04:30PM
-0400
You know, that doesn't sound like that half bad of an idea. I too
have vm ware 5, but have been really hesitant to install it and set
a vm of Windows
7 up on it as I was a little scared from the horror stories I
heard... but then again, I guess that was from Boot Camp, not from
Fusion, huh.
Anyways...
Chris.
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From: "Joseph Norton" <joseph.nor...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:15 PM
Subject: a new little thing about Mountain Lion
christopher hallsworth <christopher...@gmail.com> Aug 23 10:09PM
+0100
Let us know please as I want to try Bootcamp at some stage.
Thanks!On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:18, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
christopher hallsworth <christopher...@gmail.com> Aug 23 10:10PM
+0100
Wow only downloaded Fusion 4 I think last night or the night before.
On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:15, Joseph Norton wrote:
Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> Aug 23 05:19PM -0400
Then you should be eligible for a free upgrade.
CB
On 8/23/12 5:10 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> Aug 23 06:04PM -0400
I would doubt it. Installing windows really has nothing to do with the
bootcamp set up at that point. It would be up to
MS to make the installation of windows accessible.
Of course, as a parson who uses bootcamp, I hope I'm wrong. lol.
Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info
"Daniel Miller" <miller...@gmail.com> Aug 23 05:08PM -0500
You're right. It'd be up to Microsoft to make windows installs
accessible, since that progress bar is only for installing the mac side
of bootcamp.
Unfortunately, Windows 8 will be the only version of windows for the
first time ever that's accessible during install.
-----Original Message-----
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:05 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a new little thing about Mountain Lion
I would doubt it. Installing windows really has nothing to do with
the bootcamp set up at that point. It would be up to MS to make the
installation of windows accessible.
Of course, as a parson who uses bootcamp, I hope I'm wrong. lol.
Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info
On Aug 23, 2012, at 5:09 PM, christopher hallsworth
Let us know please as I want to try Bootcamp at some stage.
Thanks!On
23 Aug 2012, at 21:18, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install
windows
using bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for yet more work to be
done?
Skype name:
barefootedray
On Aug 23, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Joseph Norton
<joseph.nor...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Well, they finally did it!
Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they
finally give you a progress report.
Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do.
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Speaking rate in Voiceover
"Christopher-Mark gilland" <clgillan...@gmail.com> Aug 23 04:08PM
-0400
OK, I know about using vo+command+left and right arrow then when on
rate, I can move it up or down with vo+command+up and down arrows,
but here's the thing...
It's moving in 5% increments. I kind of remember a while back, it's
been quite a while, but I vaguely remember someone saying that there
was a little trick to actually adjust that in finer notches, where I
literally could move it just a percentage at a time.
Can someone refresh my noggin on how to do that? LOL!
Chris.
Esther <mori...@mac.com> Aug 23 10:38AM -1000
Hi Chris,
It used to be that holding down the shift key as well would act as a
modifier to slow down the adjustment rate of various
items such as volume, rate, etc. This was a general Mac feature, not just
for adjustments in the VO controls. I'm not sure
this works now with the plethora of shortcut key controls and QuickNav, but
somebody else may be able to tell you how to do
this. It could just be that my current setup conflicts with being able to do
this, or maybe you can still do this on a full
size keyboard? It was certainly a feature in older versions of the Mac OS X
operating system. One of the gruesome details of
inadvertently pressing the Exposé key shortcuts back instead of the F key
combination you really wanted in Leopard was, that
not only could you not tell what was going on (e.g. visual windows moving
for selection -- analogous to using Window chooser
menu but turning your screen into a kind of icon view of windows) -- but if
you happened to hold down the Shift key as well,
this would all happen in slow motion, and it would take even longer to
recover response.
HTH. Cheers,
Esther
On Aug 23, 2012, at 10:08, Christopher-Mark gilland wrote:
"Christopher-Mark gilland" <clgillan...@gmail.com> Aug 23 04:45PM
-0400
ok, but if I hit say a slider on the screen, and interact with it,
if I then wanna move it up in small movements, you're saying hold
the shift key down while doing it? Wouldn't that not work? Think
about that... to move the slider, you'd use vo+up and down arrow
after interacting. Well, if I wanna move it up a little bit, then vo+up
arrow, with the shift key... so...
vo+shift+...oops? I just stopped interacting with the slider. Bummer!
What 'em I missing?
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Esther" <mori...@mac.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking rate in Voiceover
Hi Chris,
It used to be that holding down the shift key as well would act as a
modifier to slow down the adjustment rate of various items such as
volume, rate, etc. This was a general Mac feature, not just for
adjustments in the VO controls. I'm not sure this works now with the
plethora of shortcut key controls and QuickNav, but somebody else
may be able to tell you how to do this. It could just be that my
current setup conflicts with being able to do this, or maybe you can
still do this on a full size keyboard? It was certainly a feature in
older versions of the Mac OS X operating system. One of the gruesome
details of inadvertently pressing the Exposé key shortcuts back
instead of the F key combination you really wanted in Leopard was,
that not only could you not tell what was going on (e.g. visual
windows moving for selection -- analogous to using Window chooser
menu but turning your screen into a kind of icon view of windows) --
but if you happened to hold down the Shift key as well, this would all
happen in slow motion, and it would take even
longer to recover response.
HTH. Cheers,
Esther
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Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> Aug 23 06:07PM -0400
Hi,
sure, this still works. The thing is, instead of pressing VO shift
up/down, you press VO shift left/right when you are
interacting with the slider. I do this many times a day to set the BPM in
Garageband projects.
hth
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Is Facebook Now Completely Broken
Randy Stegall <kc4...@aol.com> Aug 23 05:35PM -0400
Try using the develop menu in safari. There you will find user agent.
Choose firefox and the fb mobile site should be
accessible. Hth.
Randy Stegall
kc4...@aol.com
From: Raleigh, NC
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Best GPS app for iPhone
Harry Hogue <harryhog...@gmail.com> Aug 23 01:49PM -0600
Hi guys,
I've heard mention of a couple of different accessible GPS apps on this
list for the iPhone, and I wondered which one
people prefer to use and find most useful and why?
Thanks for any help. Oh, how much might such an app cost?
Thanks, guys.
Harry
Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> Aug 23 10:46PM +0200
Hello Harry,
The best GPS app for iPhone is a very subjective matter. It very much
depends whether you mind having a 3G connection
while using it or not.
I like Navigon because its maps reside on the phone so it doesn't
download data. The version I have works all over Europe
as long as I remember to download the appropriate maps.
However, I also like Ariadne GPS as an add-on, because it keeps me
updated as to where I am, and alerts me to the
favourites I've put in. It does need an internet connection, however, so I
can't use it outside my home country without
incurring huge charges!
These two apps work together since Navigon happily runs in the
background.
Quite a number of people use these two apps together, but I'm sure
others will have different suggestions since there are
several GPS apps that only work in the US.
Cheers,
Anne
1password accessibility
Robert Carter <nc5rn...@gmail.com> Aug 23 03:41PM -0500
Hi Paul,
I don't know for sure but am going to assume that you currently have the
weak password stored in 1password. Making that
assumption, here is how I would proceed.
1. Open 1password go to file menu, down arrow to "new item" and press
right arrow to expand it.
2. Down arrow to "new password" and press enter to open the dialogue.
3. Use VO right arrow and you will see that 1password has generated a
strong password in this dialogue.
4. VO right arrow past the password and use VO space on the copy button
to put the password on the clipboard.
5. Open TextEdit and paste the password in to a blank document. I do
this because 1password only keeps the generated
password on the clipboard for 90 seconds or whatever you have it set to.
6. Highlight the password that is now in text edit and copy it to the
clipboard. This way you don't have to worry about
it disappearing from the clipboard.
7. Open safari and go to the site where you want to change the password.
Get to the point on the site where you are being
asked for the new password and paste it in from the clipboard.
8. Go back to 1password, to your logins and locate the login information
for the site that you just changed the password
for.
9. Interact with the scroll area in 1password and use VO right arrow to
navigate to the password field. Assuming that you
have show passwords checked in the view menu, you will see your old password
for the site. Press command e to allow you to
edit this entry. Delete it and paste in the new password that is still on
the clipboard.
10. Press command e again to tell 1password that you are finished
editing.
You now have the password changed on the site and also updated in
1password. You can trash the text edit document and all
is now right with the world.
Robert Carter
Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza?
"Jürgen Fleger" <apple-engl...@fleger.net> Aug 23 10:20PM +0200
It's a pdf to epub converter.
Jürgen
there's an update to Mountain Lion available Alex Hall
<mehg...@gmail.com> Aug 23 03:40PM -0400
Check key echo under vo utility, verbosity, keyboard (I think).
Also, as basic as it sounds, did you try a restart? I know the mac
reboots for the install, but sometimes an additional reboot after
the newly installed OS is up and running can help.
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TextEdit question
Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> Aug 23 08:25AM -0500
Hi all,
If I'm in TextEdit and I want to move to the end of a line, how do I do
this?
I'm using a USB apple keyboard with my White MacBook running SL.
Thanks,
Stacey and GEB dog Chesley
David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com> Aug 23 02:28PM +0100
Command right and left arrow willmove you to the beginning and end of a
line.
and
On 23 Aug 2012, at 14:25, Stacey Robinson wrote:
Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> Aug 23 09:28AM -0400
Just like anywhere, it's cmd-right. I think of cmd as the top/bottom
key, since:
cmd-left moves to the start of a line cmd-right moves to the end of
a line cmd-up moves to the top of the text cmd-down moves to the
bottom of the text
The option key is used with left/right to move by words. I have no
idea if control does anything, or if option with up/down does
anything... I should try that.
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Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> Aug 23 09:04AM -0500
Great, this is wonderful, thanks.
On Aug 23, 2012, at 8:28 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
erik burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> Aug 23 10:23AM -0400
Hi, that would be command right arrow.
Best,
Erik Burggraaf
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