Ah. Another mystery solved, albeit with an unsatisfactory solution. :) On Aug 24, 2012, at 7:16 AM, "Missy Hoppe" <mitmee....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately, the premium quality nuance voices don't allow pitch to be > adjusted. I really wish they did. The compact > versions allow for pitch adjustment, but the quality is horrible, at least in > my opinion. > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:11 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: voices for the mack? > > You do have to choose Customize. One thing that frustrates me about Lee is > that unlike Alex, I cannot change pitch or > intonation for some reason: just rate and volume. Anyone know why this is? > Christine > On Aug 23, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Lisette Wesseling <lisettewessel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi >> Yes there's Karen and Lee, and they are free. >> Go into VO utility and choose the "voice" row of the table there. Look >> around in there. YOu may need to choose "customise" > to find all the possible options. Karen premium is what I use. You need to > download her but she is worth the megabytes. No > charge though. >> >> Lisette >> >> On 24/08/2012, at 1:19 PM, Chenelle Hancock <filmchenelle1...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> hi all, >>> i wanted to know if there were any australian voices for the mack that one >>> could purchase? >>> thanks for your help. >>> sincerely, chenelle >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 23/08/2012, at 18:28, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: >>> >>>> Today's Topic Summary >>>> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics >>>> >>>> • dumb mail question [2 Updates] >>>> • a new little thing about Mountain Lion [8 Updates] >>>> • Speaking rate in Voiceover [4 Updates] >>>> • Is Facebook Now Completely Broken [1 Update] >>>> • Best GPS app for iPhone [2 Updates] >>>> • 1password accessibility [1 Update] >>>> • Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza? [1 Update] >>>> • there's an update to Mountain Lion available [1 Update] >>>> • TextEdit question [5 Updates] >>>> dumb mail question >>>> Bill Holton <bill32...@gmail.com> Aug 23 03:52PM -0400 >>>> >>>> Hi. >>>> What is the best voiceover command to use that will get mail to >>>> consistently open a web URL insight email? >>>> >>>> Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> Aug 23 06:10PM -0400 >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I would navigate by character to the url itself then press VO space. If >>>> that fails you, do the same but instead of > pressing VO space, press VO shift M to bring up the context menu and select > to open link or something like that. >>>> >>>> hth >>>> >>>> Ricardo Walker >>>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>> >>>> >>>> a new little thing about Mountain Lion Joseph Norton >>>> <joseph.nor...@gmail.com> Aug 23 04:15PM -0400 >>>> >>>> Well, they finally did it! >>>> >>>> Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they finally >>>> give you a progress report. >>>> >>>> Not a big thing, but, it's a tiny improvement. >>>> >>>> Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do. >>>> >>>> Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> Aug 23 03:18PM -0500 >>>> >>>> So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install windows using >>>> bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for > yet more work to be done? >>>> >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>>> >>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >>>> >>>> Skype name: >>>> barefootedray >>>> >>>> >>>> "Christopher-Mark gilland" <clgillan...@gmail.com> Aug 23 04:30PM >>>> -0400 >>>> >>>> You know, that doesn't sound like that half bad of an idea. I too >>>> have vm ware 5, but have been really hesitant to install it and set >>>> a vm of Windows >>>> 7 up on it as I was a little scared from the horror stories I >>>> heard... but then again, I guess that was from Boot Camp, not from Fusion, >>>> huh. >>>> >>>> Anyways... >>>> >>>> Chris. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Joseph Norton" <joseph.nor...@gmail.com> >>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:15 PM >>>> Subject: a new little thing about Mountain Lion >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> christopher hallsworth <christopher...@gmail.com> Aug 23 10:09PM >>>> +0100 >>>> >>>> Let us know please as I want to try Bootcamp at some stage. >>>> Thanks!On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:18, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> christopher hallsworth <christopher...@gmail.com> Aug 23 10:10PM >>>> +0100 >>>> >>>> Wow only downloaded Fusion 4 I think last night or the night before. >>>> On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:15, Joseph Norton wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> Aug 23 05:19PM -0400 >>>> >>>> Then you should be eligible for a free upgrade. >>>> >>>> CB >>>> >>>> On 8/23/12 5:10 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote: >>>> >>>> Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> Aug 23 06:04PM -0400 >>>> >>>> I would doubt it. Installing windows really has nothing to do with the >>>> bootcamp set up at that point. It would be up to > MS to make the installation of windows accessible. >>>> >>>> Of course, as a parson who uses bootcamp, I hope I'm wrong. lol. >>>> >>>> Ricardo Walker >>>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>> >>>> >>>> "Daniel Miller" <miller...@gmail.com> Aug 23 05:08PM -0500 >>>> >>>> You're right. It'd be up to Microsoft to make windows installs >>>> accessible, since that progress bar is only for installing the mac side of >>>> bootcamp. >>>> Unfortunately, Windows 8 will be the only version of windows for the >>>> first time ever that's accessible during install. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:05 PM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: a new little thing about Mountain Lion >>>> >>>> I would doubt it. Installing windows really has nothing to do with >>>> the bootcamp set up at that point. It would be up to MS to make the >>>> installation of windows accessible. >>>> >>>> Of course, as a parson who uses bootcamp, I hope I'm wrong. lol. >>>> >>>> Ricardo Walker >>>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>> >>>> On Aug 23, 2012, at 5:09 PM, christopher hallsworth >>>> >>>>> Let us know please as I want to try Bootcamp at some stage. >>>>> Thanks!On >>>>> 23 Aug 2012, at 21:18, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >>>> >>>>>> So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install >>>>>> windows >>>> using bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for yet more work to be >>>> done? >>>> >>>>>> Skype name: >>>>>> barefootedray >>>> >>>>>> On Aug 23, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Joseph Norton >>>>>> <joseph.nor...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> Well, they finally did it! >>>> >>>>>>> Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they >>>> finally give you a progress report. >>>> >>>>>>> Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do. >>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>> Google >>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> Speaking rate in Voiceover >>>> "Christopher-Mark gilland" <clgillan...@gmail.com> Aug 23 04:08PM >>>> -0400 >>>> >>>> OK, I know about using vo+command+left and right arrow then when on >>>> rate, I can move it up or down with vo+command+up and down arrows, >>>> but here's the thing... >>>> >>>> It's moving in 5% increments. I kind of remember a while back, it's >>>> been quite a while, but I vaguely remember someone saying that there >>>> was a little trick to actually adjust that in finer notches, where I >>>> literally could move it just a percentage at a time. >>>> >>>> Can someone refresh my noggin on how to do that? LOL! >>>> >>>> Chris. >>>> >>>> Esther <mori...@mac.com> Aug 23 10:38AM -1000 >>>> >>>> Hi Chris, >>>> >>>> It used to be that holding down the shift key as well would act as a >>>> modifier to slow down the adjustment rate of various > items such as volume, rate, etc. This was a general Mac feature, not just for > adjustments in the VO controls. I'm not sure > this works now with the plethora of shortcut key controls and QuickNav, but > somebody else may be able to tell you how to do > this. It could just be that my current setup conflicts with being able to do > this, or maybe you can still do this on a full > size keyboard? It was certainly a feature in older versions of the Mac OS X > operating system. One of the gruesome details of > inadvertently pressing the Exposé key shortcuts back instead of the F key > combination you really wanted in Leopard was, that > not only could you not tell what was going on (e.g. visual windows moving for > selection -- analogous to using Window chooser > menu but turning your screen into a kind of icon view of windows) -- but if > you happened to hold down the Shift key as well, > this would all happen in slow motion, and it would take even longer to > recover response. >>>> >>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>> >>>> Esther >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 23, 2012, at 10:08, Christopher-Mark gilland wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Christopher-Mark gilland" <clgillan...@gmail.com> Aug 23 04:45PM >>>> -0400 >>>> >>>> ok, but if I hit say a slider on the screen, and interact with it, >>>> if I then wanna move it up in small movements, you're saying hold >>>> the shift key down while doing it? Wouldn't that not work? Think >>>> about that... to move the slider, you'd use vo+up and down arrow >>>> after interacting. Well, if I wanna move it up a little bit, then vo+up >>>> arrow, with the shift key... so... >>>> vo+shift+...oops? I just stopped interacting with the slider. Bummer! >>>> >>>> What 'em I missing? >>>> >>>> Chris. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Esther" <mori...@mac.com> >>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:38 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Speaking rate in Voiceover >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Chris, >>>> >>>> It used to be that holding down the shift key as well would act as a >>>> modifier to slow down the adjustment rate of various items such as >>>> volume, rate, etc. This was a general Mac feature, not just for >>>> adjustments in the VO controls. I'm not sure this works now with the >>>> plethora of shortcut key controls and QuickNav, but somebody else >>>> may be able to tell you how to do this. It could just be that my >>>> current setup conflicts with being able to do this, or maybe you can >>>> still do this on a full size keyboard? It was certainly a feature in >>>> older versions of the Mac OS X operating system. One of the gruesome >>>> details of inadvertently pressing the Exposé key shortcuts back >>>> instead of the F key combination you really wanted in Leopard was, >>>> that not only could you not tell what was going on (e.g. visual >>>> windows moving for selection -- analogous to using Window chooser >>>> menu but turning your screen into a kind of icon view of windows) -- >>>> but if you happened to hold down the Shift key as well, this would all >>>> happen in slow motion, and it would take even > longer to recover response. >>>> >>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>> >>>> Esther >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 23, 2012, at 10:08, Christopher-Mark gilland wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> Aug 23 06:07PM -0400 >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> sure, this still works. The thing is, instead of pressing VO shift >>>> up/down, you press VO shift left/right when you are > interacting with the slider. I do this many times a day to set the BPM in > Garageband projects. >>>> >>>> hth >>>> >>>> Ricardo Walker >>>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>> >>>> >>>> Is Facebook Now Completely Broken >>>> Randy Stegall <kc4...@aol.com> Aug 23 05:35PM -0400 >>>> >>>> Try using the develop menu in safari. There you will find user agent. >>>> Choose firefox and the fb mobile site should be > accessible. Hth. >>>> >>>> Randy Stegall >>>> kc4...@aol.com >>>> From: Raleigh, NC >>>> Sent from my Mac Mini >>>> >>>> >>>> Best GPS app for iPhone >>>> Harry Hogue <harryhog...@gmail.com> Aug 23 01:49PM -0600 >>>> >>>> Hi guys, >>>> >>>> I've heard mention of a couple of different accessible GPS apps on this >>>> list for the iPhone, and I wondered which one > people prefer to use and find most useful and why? >>>> >>>> Thanks for any help. Oh, how much might such an app cost? >>>> >>>> Thanks, guys. >>>> >>>> Harry >>>> >>>> Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> Aug 23 10:46PM +0200 >>>> >>>> Hello Harry, >>>> >>>> The best GPS app for iPhone is a very subjective matter. It very much >>>> depends whether you mind having a 3G connection > while using it or not. >>>> >>>> I like Navigon because its maps reside on the phone so it doesn't download >>>> data. The version I have works all over Europe > as long as I remember to download the appropriate maps. >>>> >>>> However, I also like Ariadne GPS as an add-on, because it keeps me updated >>>> as to where I am, and alerts me to the > favourites I've put in. It does need an internet connection, however, so I > can't use it outside my home country without > incurring huge charges! >>>> >>>> These two apps work together since Navigon happily runs in the background. >>>> >>>> Quite a number of people use these two apps together, but I'm sure others >>>> will have different suggestions since there are > several GPS apps that only work in the US. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Anne >>>> >>>> 1password accessibility >>>> Robert Carter <nc5rn...@gmail.com> Aug 23 03:41PM -0500 >>>> >>>> Hi Paul, >>>> >>>> I don't know for sure but am going to assume that you currently have the >>>> weak password stored in 1password. Making that > assumption, here is how I would proceed. >>>> >>>> 1. Open 1password go to file menu, down arrow to "new item" and press >>>> right arrow to expand it. >>>> 2. Down arrow to "new password" and press enter to open the dialogue. >>>> 3. Use VO right arrow and you will see that 1password has generated a >>>> strong password in this dialogue. >>>> 4. VO right arrow past the password and use VO space on the copy button to >>>> put the password on the clipboard. >>>> 5. Open TextEdit and paste the password in to a blank document. I do this >>>> because 1password only keeps the generated > password on the clipboard for 90 seconds or whatever you have it set to. >>>> 6. Highlight the password that is now in text edit and copy it to the >>>> clipboard. This way you don't have to worry about > it disappearing from the clipboard. >>>> 7. Open safari and go to the site where you want to change the password. >>>> Get to the point on the site where you are being > asked for the new password and paste it in from the clipboard. >>>> 8. Go back to 1password, to your logins and locate the login information >>>> for the site that you just changed the password > for. >>>> 9. Interact with the scroll area in 1password and use VO right arrow to >>>> navigate to the password field. Assuming that you > have show passwords checked in the view menu, you will see your old password > for the site. Press command e to allow you to > edit this entry. Delete it and paste in the new password that is still on the > clipboard. >>>> 10. Press command e again to tell 1password that you are finished editing. >>>> >>>> You now have the password changed on the site and also updated in >>>> 1password. You can trash the text edit document and all > is now right with the world. >>>> >>>> Robert Carter >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza? >>>> "Jürgen Fleger" <apple-engl...@fleger.net> Aug 23 10:20PM +0200 >>>> >>>> It's a pdf to epub converter. >>>> >>>> Jürgen >>>> >>>> >>>> there's an update to Mountain Lion available Alex Hall >>>> <mehg...@gmail.com> Aug 23 03:40PM -0400 >>>> >>>> Check key echo under vo utility, verbosity, keyboard (I think). >>>> Also, as basic as it sounds, did you try a restart? I know the mac >>>> reboots for the install, but sometimes an additional reboot after >>>> the newly installed OS is up and running can help. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>> mehg...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> TextEdit question >>>> Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> Aug 23 08:25AM -0500 >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> If I'm in TextEdit and I want to move to the end of a line, how do I do >>>> this? >>>> I'm using a USB apple keyboard with my White MacBook running SL. >>>> Thanks, >>>> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley >>>> >>>> David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com> Aug 23 02:28PM +0100 >>>> >>>> Command right and left arrow willmove you to the beginning and end of a >>>> line. >>>> and >>>> On 23 Aug 2012, at 14:25, Stacey Robinson wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> Aug 23 09:28AM -0400 >>>> >>>> Just like anywhere, it's cmd-right. I think of cmd as the top/bottom key, >>>> since: >>>> cmd-left moves to the start of a line cmd-right moves to the end of >>>> a line cmd-up moves to the top of the text cmd-down moves to the >>>> bottom of the text >>>> >>>> The option key is used with left/right to move by words. I have no >>>> idea if control does anything, or if option with up/down does >>>> anything... I should try that. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>> mehg...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> Aug 23 09:04AM -0500 >>>> >>>> Great, this is wonderful, thanks. >>>> >>>> On Aug 23, 2012, at 8:28 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> erik burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> Aug 23 10:23AM -0400 >>>> >>>> Hi, that would be command right arrow. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Erik Burggraaf >>>> Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting >>>> at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. >>>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at >>>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >>>> >>>> On 2012-08-23, at 9:25 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group >>>> macvisionaries. >>>> You can post via email. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an empty message. >>>> For more options, visit this group. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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