Rodney, Appears you are correct. I had use capslock as jaws key set in the jaws settings, changed to insert and all works as expected now.
Cheers! Bart Kind regards Rodney Haynie <rodney.hay...@gmail.com> writes: > Bart, > Sounds like you are getting the Insert key instead of the Caps Lock key for > Jaws. You already know in laptop keyboard mode, that the Insert key and Caps > Lock key are treated differently. So of what you wrote, it sounds like the > same thing I would get if I were holding the Insert key down. > > For example: CapsLock H and Insert H are two different commands for JAWS in > laptop keyboard mode. > > I use bootcamp, so I can not test any of this for you. > > HTH. > Rodney > > On Sep 9, 2012, at 9:36 PM, "Bart Bunting" <b...@bunting.net.au> wrote: > >> Eric, >> >> Interestingly this almost works perfectly but not quite in fusion. >> >> I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong. >> >> I'm seeing the following: >> - VO remap to capslock works fine. >> - Jaws is set to laptop layout in fusion >> - some commands work well e.g. capslock t to read title capslock f12 to >> read time etc. >> - Things that do not work are the capslock p for jaws cursor for example >> and caps semi for virtual cursor. >> >> Anyone else seeing this? Perhaps I have an old setting hanging around >> but it would seam strange that it works for some keys and not others. >> >> Cheers >> Bart >> >> >> >> Eric Caron <ecar...@comcast.net> writes: >> >>> hi Iona, buddy and others, >>> >>> Below is the permanent applevis.com link to the podcast for >>> KeyRemap4macbook. >>> >>> It is great to hear that some of you are fining this capability >>> helpful. Like Buddy I'm having to relearn muscle memory but in most cases >>> it is now natural for me to use the caps lock rather then the VO keys. I >>> now use commands like caps lock a and caps lock b a lot more because they y >>> are so much easier now. >>> >>> Thanks Iona for pointing out that people need to press a check box in >>> PCKeyboardhack. For changing the Caps Lock I suspect i didn't notice >>> because once I checked it it remained checked even when I reinstalled it to >>> demonstrate for the podcast. >>> >>> I'm not sure why you downloaded the wrong PCKeyBoardhack. that doesn't >>> seem to have been a problem for others. >>> >>> Thanks to those letting me know that you have found this useful. and pleas >>> keep the helpful tips coming. >>> >>> here's the link: >>> >>> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/new-updated-remapping-keys-your-macs-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience >>> >>> Eric Caron >>> On Sep 9, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Thanks so much for the procedure. IT worked perfectly for me. >>>> I would point out 2 things I had problems with. >>>> 1. On the download page I could not download the 8.0 PCKeyboard hack >>>> without sighted assistance. FOr some reason clicking on the link >>>> downloaded the 7.x. >>>> 2. In the PCKeyboard hack preferences changing 51 to 110 worked but one >>>> has to check the checkbox to enable the changing of caps lock. Pretty >>>> obvious but thought I'd point it out. >>>> >>>> Amazing improvement! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Ioana >>>> >>>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online >>>> stores. >>>> >>>> On Sep 8, 2012, at 10:03 PM, Eric Caron <ecar...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Listers, >>>>> >>>>> Below I've written out the steps needed to have the Voice Over Keys, >>>>> Control and Option, mapped to the caps lock key. This allows a Voice >>>>> over user to use caps lock with keys that might be difficult to reach >>>>> with the standard Control Option VO keys. In addition this new setting >>>>> now automatically creates Caps Lock as the modifier in a VM machine. >>>>> Finally the application creates a number pad on the standard keyboard >>>>> centered around the letter i. >>>>> >>>>> This is a update to my earlier podcast. Takayama Fumihiko, the developer >>>>> of these applications has changed KeyRemapper4Macbook, making it much >>>>> easier to set up the computer to use the caps lock as the VO keys. >>>>> >>>>> Below I will write out the steps to complete the set up. >>>>> I will also include a link to a recently completed podcast that walks >>>>> through the new set up. this is much shorter then the previous podcast >>>>> as it is much easier to complete the steps. The podcast is 25 minutes >>>>> long but the last 4 minutes is for those who all ready use the >>>>> applications and want to update. >>>>> >>>>> I will be submitting this podcast and the written details to applevis.com >>>>> in the hope that they will post the update. >>>>> >>>>> - >>>>> Here are the steps needed to have a number pad added to your keyboard, >>>>> have caps lock work as a Voice Over Key, and have the Caps lock work as >>>>> the Jaws key or similar modifier in other screen readers used in VM >>>>> Fusion. >>>>> Go to the developer web site and download and install both >>>>> KeyRemap4MacBook and PCKeyboardHack. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/pckeyboardhack-usage.html.en >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Be sure you restart your computer at the end of the install. >>>>> >>>>> Now go to System Preferences and to Keyboard. Change the behavior of the >>>>> Caps lock key to no action. >>>>> Now also in System Preferences under Other you will find both >>>>> PCKeyboardhack and Keyremap4Macbook. go to PCKeyboardhack and in the >>>>> settings tab in the first table interact on the field that currently >>>>> reads 51. Press enter after interacting, then change the number to 110. >>>>> This changes the caps lock key to the windows Application key. then close >>>>> the application >>>>> >>>>> Still in System Preferences and in the Other category go to >>>>> KeyRemap4Macbook. In the Change Key tab move over to the search field >>>>> and type in "blind voice over" without the quotes. then arrow right over >>>>> to the table. Interact and you should be on the correct setting. arrow >>>>> to the check box and select it. Close the application. >>>>> >>>>>>>> The new setting name is "Use Caps Lock as Voice Over key." >>>>> >>>>> Now if you press the caps lock key it will act as if you are pressing the >>>>> Control and Option keys. You have the original VO keys to use. as this >>>>> only changes the caps lock key. Also If you press the FN key and letter >>>>> i you will find it is a 5 and the rest of the number pad is there. If >>>>> you turn on num pad commander you can now use the Voice Over controls >>>>> with this number pad. >>>>> >>>>> For VM Fusion users you have another bonus. The caps lock key will now >>>>> act as the Jaws key if you are using a VM Fusion machine with windows. >>>>> The Keyremap4macbook application can be used instead of sharp keys or the >>>>> VM fusion key settings. they should not be used to try to control the >>>>> same keys at the same time. >>>>> >>>>> The Keyremap4macbook needs to be version >>>>>>>> 7.8.17. >>>>> If you want to be sure you have that one here is the direct link. >>>>>>>> http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/files/KeyRemap4MacBook-7.8.17.dmg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In VMware Fusion, the Help key will be interpreted as Insert Key. As >>>>>>>> this is often the screen reader modifier in Windows screen readers it >>>>>>>> will now work as the caps lock key. >>>>> for more information here is a helpful link. >>>>>>>> http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?cmd=displayKC&externalId=1001675 >>>>>>>> >>>>> Here are the steps to update KeyRemap4Macbook if you followed the >>>>> original podcast and used the Private XML. this is only for those who >>>>> want to add the VM Fusion option or simply want the newer application. >>>>> The Caps lock key on the Mac and the Num pad behavior will be the same so >>>>> you may not want to bother to update. >>>>> >>>>> Those who did a new install as listed above all ready have the VM Fusion >>>>> option and the other capabilities. >>>>> >>>>> If for some reason you want the Caps Lock Key to only work as the VO keys >>>>> and not be available in the VM machine then follow the directions in the >>>>> original podcast that includes the private xml. You will find this at >>>>> applevis.com and all needed text and links are in the Guides section. >>>>> >>>>> Steps to update Keyremap4Macbook, for those who used the private xml. >>>>> >>>>> go into system Preferences and to Keyremap4macbook and uncheck the box >>>>> for Application key to Control Option. For me it is the first item in >>>>> the table when i interact. >>>>> Then close the application. >>>>> >>>>> Download the new version 7.8.17 link above. >>>>> Be sure to restart the computer after you install. >>>>> Then do the same as above. >>>>> Go to KeyRemap4Macbook and in the search field enter "blind voice over" >>>>> then interact with the table and you are on the setting that needs to be >>>>> checked. >>>>> >>>>> Thats it. >>>>> Please remember this is donation supported. You will find the donation >>>>> link at the same location you downloaded the applications. >>>>> >>>>> Below is the link to the new podcast. that walks through these steps. >>>>> >>>>> Eric Caron >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5620907/KeyRemap4MacbookUpdate.mp3 >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> Bart >> -- >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> Bart >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Bart -- Kind regards Bart -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
