Hi Bart and Rodney,
You folks are moving way ahead of me! I'm loving the keyboard changes
but I'm still learning as I go. The Mac side is rock solid but the VM side
though working great has additional complications.
Bart can you explain what setting it was you changed in JAWS in the VM to get
the caps lock to function the way you wanted? I'd like to try that as well.
Eric Caron
On Sep 9, 2012, at 11:03 PM, "Bart Bunting" <b...@bunting.net.au> wrote:
> Rodney,
>
> Appears you are correct. I had use capslock as jaws key set in the jaws
> settings, changed to insert and all works as expected now.
>
> Cheers!
> Bart
> Kind regards
>
> Rodney Haynie <rodney.hay...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Bart,
>> Sounds like you are getting the Insert key instead of the Caps Lock key
>> for Jaws. You already know in laptop keyboard mode, that the Insert key and
>> Caps Lock key are treated differently. So of what you wrote, it sounds like
>> the same thing I would get if I were holding the Insert key down.
>>
>> For example: CapsLock H and Insert H are two different commands for JAWS in
>> laptop keyboard mode.
>>
>> I use bootcamp, so I can not test any of this for you.
>>
>> HTH.
>> Rodney
>>
>> On Sep 9, 2012, at 9:36 PM, "Bart Bunting" <b...@bunting.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>> Eric,
>>>
>>> Interestingly this almost works perfectly but not quite in fusion.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong.
>>>
>>> I'm seeing the following:
>>> - VO remap to capslock works fine.
>>> - Jaws is set to laptop layout in fusion
>>> - some commands work well e.g. capslock t to read title capslock f12 to
>>> read time etc.
>>> - Things that do not work are the capslock p for jaws cursor for example
>>> and caps semi for virtual cursor.
>>>
>>> Anyone else seeing this? Perhaps I have an old setting hanging around
>>> but it would seam strange that it works for some keys and not others.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Bart
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Eric Caron <ecar...@comcast.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> hi Iona, buddy and others,
>>>>
>>>> Below is the permanent applevis.com link to the podcast for
>>>> KeyRemap4macbook.
>>>>
>>>> It is great to hear that some of you are fining this capability
>>>> helpful. Like Buddy I'm having to relearn muscle memory but in most cases
>>>> it is now natural for me to use the caps lock rather then the VO keys. I
>>>> now use commands like caps lock a and caps lock b a lot more because they
>>>> y are so much easier now.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Iona for pointing out that people need to press a check box in
>>>> PCKeyboardhack. For changing the Caps Lock I suspect i didn't notice
>>>> because once I checked it it remained checked even when I reinstalled it
>>>> to demonstrate for the podcast.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure why you downloaded the wrong PCKeyBoardhack. that doesn't
>>>> seem to have been a problem for others.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to those letting me know that you have found this useful. and
>>>> pleas keep the helpful tips coming.
>>>>
>>>> here's the link:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/new-updated-remapping-keys-your-macs-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience
>>>>
>>>> Eric Caron
>>>> On Sep 9, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks so much for the procedure. IT worked perfectly for me.
>>>>> I would point out 2 things I had problems with.
>>>>> 1. On the download page I could not download the 8.0 PCKeyboard hack
>>>>> without sighted assistance. FOr some reason clicking on the link
>>>>> downloaded the 7.x.
>>>>> 2. In the PCKeyboard hack preferences changing 51 to 110 worked but one
>>>>> has to check the checkbox to enable the changing of caps lock. Pretty
>>>>> obvious but thought I'd point it out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Amazing improvement!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ioana
>>>>>
>>>>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most
>>>>> online stores.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 8, 2012, at 10:03 PM, Eric Caron <ecar...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Listers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Below I've written out the steps needed to have the Voice Over Keys,
>>>>>> Control and Option, mapped to the caps lock key. This allows a Voice
>>>>>> over user to use caps lock with keys that might be difficult to reach
>>>>>> with the standard Control Option VO keys. In addition this new setting
>>>>>> now automatically creates Caps Lock as the modifier in a VM machine.
>>>>>> Finally the application creates a number pad on the standard keyboard
>>>>>> centered around the letter i.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a update to my earlier podcast. Takayama Fumihiko, the developer
>>>>>> of these applications has changed KeyRemapper4Macbook, making it much
>>>>>> easier to set up the computer to use the caps lock as the VO keys.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Below I will write out the steps to complete the set up.
>>>>>> I will also include a link to a recently completed podcast that walks
>>>>>> through the new set up. this is much shorter then the previous podcast
>>>>>> as it is much easier to complete the steps. The podcast is 25 minutes
>>>>>> long but the last 4 minutes is for those who all ready use the
>>>>>> applications and want to update.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will be submitting this podcast and the written details to
>>>>>> applevis.com in the hope that they will post the update.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> Here are the steps needed to have a number pad added to your keyboard,
>>>>>> have caps lock work as a Voice Over Key, and have the Caps lock work as
>>>>>> the Jaws key or similar modifier in other screen readers used in VM
>>>>>> Fusion.
>>>>>> Go to the developer web site and download and install both
>>>>>> KeyRemap4MacBook and PCKeyboardHack.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/pckeyboardhack-usage.html.en
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Be sure you restart your computer at the end of the install.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now go to System Preferences and to Keyboard. Change the behavior of
>>>>>> the Caps lock key to no action.
>>>>>> Now also in System Preferences under Other you will find both
>>>>>> PCKeyboardhack and Keyremap4Macbook. go to PCKeyboardhack and in the
>>>>>> settings tab in the first table interact on the field that currently
>>>>>> reads 51. Press enter after interacting, then change the number to 110.
>>>>>> This changes the caps lock key to the windows Application key. then
>>>>>> close the application
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still in System Preferences and in the Other category go to
>>>>>> KeyRemap4Macbook. In the Change Key tab move over to the search field
>>>>>> and type in "blind voice over" without the quotes. then arrow right
>>>>>> over to the table. Interact and you should be on the correct setting.
>>>>>> arrow to the check box and select it. Close the application.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The new setting name is "Use Caps Lock as Voice Over key."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now if you press the caps lock key it will act as if you are pressing
>>>>>> the Control and Option keys. You have the original VO keys to use. as
>>>>>> this only changes the caps lock key. Also If you press the FN key and
>>>>>> letter i you will find it is a 5 and the rest of the number pad is
>>>>>> there. If you turn on num pad commander you can now use the Voice Over
>>>>>> controls with this number pad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For VM Fusion users you have another bonus. The caps lock key will now
>>>>>> act as the Jaws key if you are using a VM Fusion machine with windows.
>>>>>> The Keyremap4macbook application can be used instead of sharp keys or
>>>>>> the VM fusion key settings. they should not be used to try to control
>>>>>> the same keys at the same time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Keyremap4macbook needs to be version
>>>>>>>>> 7.8.17.
>>>>>> If you want to be sure you have that one here is the direct link.
>>>>>>>>> http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/files/KeyRemap4MacBook-7.8.17.dmg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In VMware Fusion, the Help key will be interpreted as Insert Key. As
>>>>>>>>> this is often the screen reader modifier in Windows screen readers it
>>>>>>>>> will now work as the caps lock key.
>>>>>> for more information here is a helpful link.
>>>>>>>>> http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?cmd=displayKC&externalId=1001675
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here are the steps to update KeyRemap4Macbook if you followed the
>>>>>> original podcast and used the Private XML. this is only for those who
>>>>>> want to add the VM Fusion option or simply want the newer application.
>>>>>> The Caps lock key on the Mac and the Num pad behavior will be the same
>>>>>> so you may not want to bother to update.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Those who did a new install as listed above all ready have the VM Fusion
>>>>>> option and the other capabilities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If for some reason you want the Caps Lock Key to only work as the VO
>>>>>> keys and not be available in the VM machine then follow the directions
>>>>>> in the original podcast that includes the private xml. You will find
>>>>>> this at applevis.com and all needed text and links are in the Guides
>>>>>> section.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steps to update Keyremap4Macbook, for those who used the private xml.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> go into system Preferences and to Keyremap4macbook and uncheck the box
>>>>>> for Application key to Control Option. For me it is the first item in
>>>>>> the table when i interact.
>>>>>> Then close the application.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Download the new version 7.8.17 link above.
>>>>>> Be sure to restart the computer after you install.
>>>>>> Then do the same as above.
>>>>>> Go to KeyRemap4Macbook and in the search field enter "blind voice over"
>>>>>> then interact with the table and you are on the setting that needs to be
>>>>>> checked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thats it.
>>>>>> Please remember this is donation supported. You will find the donation
>>>>>> link at the same location you downloaded the applications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Below is the link to the new podcast. that walks through these steps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric Caron
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5620907/KeyRemap4MacbookUpdate.mp3
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