Hello, I purchased one of the alternative applications to work with spreadsheets on the Mac called Tables. Initially, I was very pleased with it as it contained several very useful shortcut keys, for instance, to move to the top or bottom of current column, to jump to the beginning or end of a row,. Selecting a range of cells was also pretty accessible. I exchanged a few e-mails with the developer and he was helpful.
Since Lion however Tables have become so much like numbers in terms of reporting "busy" all the time, that it slowed my work totally to an acceptable pace. The recent updates of Tables also brought a drop in the accessibility. I would not advise at the moment to buy this programme although do test it for yourselves as you have a 30 day trial period. I've not been writing to the developer since. I got a bit fed up and I have had other things to contend with. Also, I was hoping to be able to switch to Numbers which I did and initially things were sort of okay until my spreadsheets grew in size and I m again finding I can't work with them at a pace that acceptable. Additionally, not being able to jump to top and bottom of a column or beginning and end of a row is a disadvantage. Best wishs Andrew On 23 Nov 2012, at 16:22, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: > Today's Topic Summary > Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics > > posting a picture from a text message to FACEbook? [1 Update] > Can no longer use Google Maps to get directions [1 Update] > Numbers reports "busy" when working with long spreadsheet [2 Updates] > commander for notifications center? [5 Updates] > Sound Forge ON Mac? [3 Updates] > Video Converter Suggestions [2 Updates] > mountain lion impressions [4 Updates] > Safari plug ins, read ability [1 Update] > bean word processor [1 Update] > Accessible Crossword Puzzles [2 Updates] > turning up youtube videos [1 Update] > Tonido [1 Update] > podcasts [1 Update] > posting a picture from a text message to FACEbook? > Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> Nov 23 09:05AM -0600 > > Anyone know how to do this? I've tried it from my iPhone, and from iMessage, > but can't seem to figure it out. > Best, > Donna > > Can no longer use Google Maps to get directions > Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com> Nov 23 08:40AM -0500 > > Haven't done this in a while, since I generally just use Navigon or another > app to get directions. However, I am seeking directions from one point to > another, not from my current location, in order to plan a trip, and Google > Maps on the Mac is so cluttered with a visual map I can't make heads or tails > of it, or even find the option for public transportation. I tried going to > Google's mobile site, but it appears that their map services are only > available if one has an Android device. Is there a workaround, or another > site I can use? Thanks. > Christine > P.S. I tried Mapquest, but that's a bundle of confusion as well. > > Numbers reports "busy" when working with long spreadsheet > Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> Nov 22 11:29PM -0800 > > Hey guys, > > I have had several problems with numbers since the mountain lion > updated, and emailed apple accessibility a few weeks back. I never > heard anything as I did express my disappointment with how poor an > apple product like numbers worked with VO. I finally heard back from > Apple and they said Numbers hasn't been updated in several years to > reflect the changes in operating systems, and they currently can't say > when numbers will be updated. Very frustrating and disappointing. I > think Apple should place a disclaimer on the product, as it is very > misleading. I work with large spreadsheets, so would love to hear > about some alternative options since I feel both numbers and excel are > pretty non accessible. > > > Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> Nov 23 05:43AM -0600 > > Hi Brian > Some people on this list of said that they like the program called tables. I > have not used it myself because I am been able to work around the problems > that we've discussed. I can see that if you use numbers for hours a day, it > would be a definite problem. I don't know if I would call numbers and excel > inaccessible, but I would call them difficult to use these days If you have > large files. > Gigi > > Sent from my iPhone > > > commander for notifications center? > Kliphton.A.M <kliph...@outlook.com> Nov 23 02:58AM -0600 > > When notifications center was first introduced in mountain lion, someone > posted a work around on how to make a commander or hot key for it since you > couldn't do it the normal way in vo utility. Does anyone remember how to do > it, or have that message handy? I searched for it on the archives, but no > luck. Thanks. > > > > Kliphton Senior > > (Email&iMessage) kliph...@outlook.com > > (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72 > > (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com > <http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com/> > > (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com > > (face book) http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie > > Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> Nov 23 10:54AM > > Go to the shorrt Cut keys in preferences, add a short cut from there. I have > it as control shift n, well I did when I had my previous Mac. I have all that > to do again when I get my I Mac in Jan! > > Kawal. > > > Kliphton.A.M <kliph...@outlook.com> Nov 23 05:14AM -0600 > > How do you tell it you want this short cut for notifications center? > > > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 4:54 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: commander for notifications center? > > > > Go to the shorrt Cut keys in preferences, add a short cut from there. I have > it as control shift n, well I did when I had my previous Mac. I have all > that to do again when I get my I Mac in Jan! > > > > Kawal. > > On 23 Nov 2012, at 08:58 AM, "Kliphton.A.M" <kliph...@outlook.com> wrote: > > When notifications center was first introduced in mountain lion, someone > posted a work around on how to make a commander or hot key for it since you > couldn't do it the normal way in vo utility. Does anyone remember how to do > it, or have that message handy? I searched for it on the archives, but no > luck. Thanks. > > > > Kliphton Senior > > (Email&iMessage) kliph...@outlook.com > > (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72 > > (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com > <http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com/> > > (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com > > (face book) http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> Nov 23 11:17AM > > Don't you pick it from the pop up Menu? I can't remember exactly as I don't > have the Mac in front of me, But I'm sure it was like that. Tell me, what is > the Dialog like so I can tell you. > > Kawal. > > > "Daniel Miller" <miller...@gmail.com> Nov 23 05:24AM -0600 > > It's in the mission control section of the keyboard shortcuts pane. > > > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 5:17 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: commander for notifications center? > > > > Don't you pick it from the pop up Menu? I can't remember exactly as I don't > have the Mac in front of me, But I'm sure it was like that. Tell me, what is > the Dialog like so I can tell you. > > > > Kawal. > > On 23 Nov 2012, at 11:14 AM, "Kliphton.A.M" <kliph...@outlook.com> wrote: > > How do you tell it you want this short cut for notifications center? > > > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 4:54 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: commander for notifications center? > > > > Go to the shorrt Cut keys in preferences, add a short cut from there. I have > it as control shift n, well I did when I had my previous Mac. I have all > that to do again when I get my I Mac in Jan! > > > > Kawal. > > On 23 Nov 2012, at 08:58 AM, "Kliphton.A.M" <kliph...@outlook.com> wrote: > > When notifications center was first introduced in mountain lion, someone > posted a work around on how to make a commander or hot key for it since you > couldn't do it the normal way in vo utility. Does anyone remember how to do > it, or have that message handy? I searched for it on the archives, but no > luck. Thanks. > > > > Kliphton Senior > > (Email&iMessage) kliph...@outlook.com > > (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72 > > (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com > <http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com/> > > (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com > > (face book) http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > Sound Forge ON Mac? > Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> Nov 22 04:38PM -0600 > > regions are used to break one long file in to seperate tracks for a CD. > Question. When you went in to the record dialog, did you keep getting "busy" > from Voice Over? > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! > > Skype name: > barefootedray > > > "Jürgen Fleger" <apple-engl...@fleger.net> Nov 23 08:29AM +0100 > > Yes I do. But all you need to do is to press Enter to stopp recording. Then > uncheck "Arm" and you can listen to your recording by pressing Spacebar. > Unfortunately the record window is completely inaccessible with VoiceOver. > But at least you can make a recording. > > All the best > Jürgen > > > Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> Nov 23 04:12AM -0600 > > Frankly, I consider that almost a deal breaker. Here's a thought though. Can > you go in to the preferences window, and from there, is there a display > section where you adjust the size of windows and graphics and such? I'm > thinking maybe that perhaps you can downskale the size of those display > factors and such so that it's possible to access the stuff in the record > dialog window? Also, what happens if you enter the record dialog and then > quit and restart voice over? Try some of that and see if maybe what you do > makes any difference and let us know? > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! > > Skype name: > barefootedray > > > Video Converter Suggestions > Kliphton.A.M <kliph...@outlook.com> Nov 23 12:47AM -0600 > > Are you looking for free, or paid versions? What all would you like this > converter to do? Off the top of my head, I have heard a lot of people > mention handbreak, and DVD ripper pro. Just to name a few. > > Kliphton Senior > (Email&iMessage) kliph...@outlook.com > (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72 > (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com > (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com > (face book) http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Emilio Hernandez > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 1:21 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Video Converter Suggestions > > Hello everyone, > > Does anyone know of an accessible video converter for the Mac? > I have several video files that have the ".mkv" extension. > I found a program on the Internet, but it places a watermark on the video. > > Any suggestions people have would be great - hope all are having a safe > holiday time with family or friends. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > "Jürgen Fleger" <apple-engl...@fleger.net> Nov 23 08:24AM +0100 > > Did you try the built in video converter from Apple? Just open the context > menue und start converting. > I use a german Mac OS and so I can't tell you the correct titles in the > context menue in your language. > All the best > Jürgen > > > mountain lion impressions > Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> Nov 22 05:13PM -0600 > > No, the image won't fit on a DVD. I sort of had to go the long way around. I > let it install as an upgrade, then I booted the mac in to recovery and did an > erase and reinstall from there. I now have it on a flash drive though so > upgrading my other macs will go much faster. > On Nov 22, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Tim Mehok wrote: > > > Chris Bruinenberg <cbrui...@gmail.com> Nov 22 03:19PM -0800 > > Mike is there a way to do a USB install if mountain lion was pre installed. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> Nov 22 05:24PM -0600 > > If mountain lion was preinstalled, just use the recovery to reinstall. There > is also an program you can download from apple's site called the recovery > assistant that will create a recovery flash drive for you. > On Nov 22, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Chris Bruinenberg wrote: > > > Chris Bruinenberg <cbrui...@gmail.com> Nov 22 07:41PM -0800 > > Hi Mike. > Thank you for your help. > > > Safari plug ins, read ability > Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> Nov 22 09:29PM -0600 > > Andrew, > Thanks so much for this helpful message. Just what I needed. > > On Nov 22, 2012, at 1:09 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: > > > bean word processor > Traci <our4p...@gmail.com> Nov 22 05:55PM -0800 > > It's free. > Sent by Macbook Air Mail > > > Accessible Crossword Puzzles > Harry Hogue <harryhog...@gmail.com> Nov 22 02:56PM -0700 > > Anne, > > This took just a little getting used to, and it would be nice if you didn't > have to bring the mouse each time, but this really is very accessible. I have > never played a crossword in my life, and am really happy to find out how this > works.if I find others, I will let you know. > > Thanks so much, > > Harry > > > Peter Apgar <pap...@gmavt.net> Nov 22 06:08PM -0500 > > Thank you Ann, > > do you know if there's a crossword program available for the iPhone? > > Pete > > Sent from my iPhone > > > turning up youtube videos > Maria & Joe Chapman <bubbygirl1...@gmail.com> Nov 23 08:47AM +1100 > > Hi. > > For some reason the volume on youtube videos is set to 5 percent. I can see > this in some html videos. I turn it up and it's ok for that video but not all > videos are displaying the volume button. How can i turn these ones up? > > thanks. > > > regards > Maria and crew from australia > email: > bubbygirl1...@gmail.com > check out > www.95-the-mix.com > where we play lots of great music > > Tonido > Chris <christopher...@gmail.com> Nov 22 09:36PM > > Hello all > I now got Tonido, both the desktop and iPhone app. Apart from a > misunderstanding on my part not realizing I had to both update the > service and application until they both show fully up to date, it's all > working and it's awesome! > One question though, how do I download files from my computer to my > iPhone? I downloaded an audio file but can't see it anywhere on my > iPhone including the music app. > Thanks! > -- > > Christopher Hallsworth > > podcasts > Chris Bruinenberg <cbrui...@gmail.com> Nov 21 03:53PM -0800 > > Hi all. > I'm sorry if this came through many times. > Is there any suggestions for a podcast client excluding iTunes? > Thank you for any help. > Chris > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group > macvisionaries. > You can post via email. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an empty message. > For more options, visit this group. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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