You're exactly right John. I am ashamed of myself for the prior comments I
made, and I humbly ask that you all please accept my apology. I acted like
a jerk!
Thank you kindly,
Christopher-Mark Gilland.
Founder of CLG Productions
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Panarese" <jpanar...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: ITunes 11 is absolutely perverted! in my opinion!
If you look in the view menu and hit enter on, show Side bar, you do have
a source list visible. You then can use control-option-j to jump from the
source list to other areas and back. You can also use the VoiceOver web
navigation commands as well, such as VO-command-j or even option-tab.
My suggestion is look at the menus and experiment a bit before you jump
to conclusions. It's certainly different, but I would not call it
"perverted" in the least. Be patient and explore and tinker. We all have
to learn it and find techniques and tips to pass along to one another.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
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On Nov 29, 2012, at 10:32 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
OK, I don't normally bitch about Apple å³°roducts, but I have to say, what
in the cottin pickin heck! was Apple thinking! Maybe I am just not very
patient, but this is absolutely disgusting! from what I am so far seeing.
First of all, I hear people saying the interface is much simpiler? OK,
how do you figure that? You're entitled certainly to you all's own
opinions, but lookat. Let me give my! point a vew.
First of all, the sources list is totally 100% gone. Granted it's in a
popup button now, which is fine, except that they put it way smished in
the darn middle of the screen it seems. This means without the item
chooser, it's a pain in the butt! to get to that popup button. I can't
even jump over a lot of things by pressing vo+down arrow instead of right
arrow. If I do that, there really is no way to get with vo+down arrow to
the source popup, as it's on the top most row of the screen, so down would
take me too low, and vo+up won't work, as you kind a already are! on the
top upper most column of the screen, so... there went that! idea. Second
of all, at least that I so far can see, though I could be incorrect on
this assumption, and dear God I hope that I am, there is no longer a list
view. It's totally grid based now. Not that this is really per sey an
issue, but it does make navigating a little bit more confusing, I'll sure
as heck tell you that!
OK, let's talk about something that for a change I do! actually like. I
love the fact that they have given us the option of sorting our music by
songs, artist, playlist, genre, or even album just by hitting vo+space on
whichever button near the top of the screen. In that sense, I think that
was an excellent idea. No, I'm not being sarcastic at all! I mean it!
That really was pretty cool. The only issue is, say you go under albums.
Now you go to the bottom of the screen and interact with the grid. I'm
finding that pressing vo+down arrow after doing so is only reading the
first 13 or so things in the list. Past this point, it insists to only
say row 14, row 15, row 16, etc. it won't read the album. Not only this,
but with the ones it does read, it's only telling me the album title, and
not the artist along with it, so I have no way necessarily of knowing who
the album is by, unless I'm already familiar with the disc. Fortunately,
I know my music quite well, so thus, I usually can tell who the disc is
by, but that could change down the road.
Here's something else really gross in my view. I did a search while in
album view sorting for "Testify to Love." Once I did this, I noticed as I
typed, it made the most God! aweful! sound I've ever heard from my macbook
speakers. Scared the buh Jesus! outta me! Anyway, rellavant as that is,
LOL! I then vo+right arrowed and found that it showed the results. I
found Testify to Love by Avalon from the A Maize of Grace album. So, I
thought ok, bingo! I hit vo+space on it. Ding? Ding ding? What the
heck! Finally I tried to stop interacting. Turns out, that stupid popup
that came up apparently was being interacted with. After I stopped, I was
able to access the grid, but all I saw was a grid of all the albums I had
by Avalon. Vo+Space on them doesn't seem to be doing anything more so than
bringing up the album details screen. Once in that screen, I saw where it
said songs, then it said 1. Testify to Love, and that was the only song
showing. I presume this is because that is the track that I searched for,
so it's not gonna populate the whole album. OK, fine, whatever. That
makes sense I guess, whatever. I hit vo+space on that. Again, let's hear
the nice ding dong merrily on high, the mackin bells are dingging. What
the birdy butt sky, I can't do a darn thing thing. OK, enough with my
smartass comments. You get the point though.
Here's something else. Each device you have connected like an IPhone, or
an IPad, etc. apparently appears at the top of the screen, again, the very
top row, so forget vo+up or down to quickly get there. You gotta move
about 7 or so times to the right from the top left corner, so there again
went your really quick navigation. OK, fine, Voiceover hotspots to the
rescue, yeah, sure thing, but, that's ludicrus to have to do that just to
make very very vital points of the app easier to quickly access. I mean,
come? On! Give, me, a break! Before you flame me, and say, Chris? your
attitude is totally! uncalled for, let me just say this. For a new
Voiceover user, not that I am one, but let's only just for a moment say
that I were, this interface would be ridiculously! confusing! Is it
accessible? Yes. Extremely so, but just because it's accessible doesn't
mean it's clean. Frankly, this is probably the most disgusting interface
of any! Apple based app with the exception of IPhoto that I ever have seen
in my life! And before you say it, oh? baby? have I ever! contacted Apple
Accessibility regarding this. I was very polite, don't worry, but I did
tell them up front, between them over charging me for my last ITunes
purchase which by the way, they are refusing to refund, then other things
I won't go into here on list, plus then, now this? I mean God! Bless!
Oh, here's one more thing, that popup that came up that I was
automatically interacting with when I did the search for Testify to love?
I saw a button in there for adding the track to up next. OK, based on the
thread already up here, I know now what that is, and it actually honestly
sounds really really awesome. It'll be great to queue things up like that
with crossfading enabled when I use Nicecast to do my internet broadcasts,
but here's the thing. I hit vo+space on that, and I guess it added it,
but then I went back up and hit play. Nothing played though what so ever.
Frankly? I think I'm just gonna quit using ITunes and go v l c. This is
ridiculous! If I need music, apps, etc. I'll just use my i o s devices.
I'm sorry, but this is down right yuck in my book.
Before you say anything, let me say this final comment then I'll be done,
I swear. Most of you, probably not all, but a ton of you probably are
gonna write me back either on list or off, most likely on, and try
imbarrassing the heck outta me either purposefully or not, by saying my
attitude is totally unacceptable, and that more so my choice of slang is
only more to show my ignorance. Allow me to say this. I do all my work
business wize with the help of I O S and my copy of ITunes. Whether that
is promoting my debut single in ITunes by playing it for people I meet on
my phone, or it's me using my phone as a calendar/roledex, or it's me
using apps like LookTel or whatever, to simplify my independence. The
bottom line is: ITunes for me is a big! big! deal. To not have good
access to it is extremely! extremely! irritating. I never said I can't,
nor will, get the hang eventually of the new version, and frankly, like it
or not, I really don't have much of a choice in the matter. I understand
that. So, I'll apologize firstly and foremost in advance to anyone whom
this e-mail may offend with my wordage, or verbiage there of, but
understand that when you have an app that works so fantasticly, then
companies think that they have to implement eye candy and totally middle
F*** the interface, that makes me extremely! angry. If it's not broken,
then God, darnit? don't fixit! I dono why for so many companies, that's
so hard to understand.
OK, enough sauga. I'm off to learn this new damned thing. Anyone wanna
gamble with me if I figure it out or not? LOL! Just kidding. Hey! I had
to make ya smile after reading all that crap, somehow, ey?
Chris.
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