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HTH Matthew Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2012, at 5:24 PM, "Chris Moore" <apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com> wrote: > That is exactly how I prefer to use iTunes also. Anyone worked out what that > iCloud button does yet? > On 2 Dec 2012, at 03:38, Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The one view I always liked in prior versions of iTunes was the table view >> showing all the tracks of an album and the detail columns that go with them. >> I discovered that if I choose the Songs view instead of Album or Artist, I >> not only get the table list view back but I can also get the column view >> back as well. And while interacting with the music table, I can use VO-J to >> toggle around between the player, Music Browser and the Music table. That >> never worked properly for me in older iTunes versions. The new grid views >> seem strange to me but there are so many different ways to configure this >> thing, it's pleasant news to be able to get a view that can just about >> please everyone. >> >> Right now, I'm using the Songs view with Sidebar turned off but status line >> turned on. Plus I have the column view enabled. This is really working >> good for me. >> >> On Dec 1, 2012, at 3:37 AM, KJSC radio <kjsc.ra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hey all, while it may seem different in iTunes, Like many people have said, >>> the few options are the way to go if you want iTunes to look and feel >>> mostly like normal again. Yeah while it seems like apple made iTunes >>> complex this time around, their are 2 choices you can make… For example, >>> you can choose to live with the new interface which I have decided to do >>> for a bit or you can choose to see if there are ways to make iTunes appear >>> normal again… Just thoughtI would bring that up… I would like to say >>> though that I love the up ned feature!!! I find this useful especially, >>> when I'm doing enter net radio broadcasting with nice cast on my station >>> and if someone requests a song that I have in my library, I could just go >>> into the songs view, search for the song, find it and VO shift M on that >>> and choose add to next up!!! I love that because I would just make it >>> crossfade to the next song just by doing that… well, have a good day all. >>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> You're exactly right John. I am ashamed of myself for the prior comments >>>> I made, and I humbly ask that you all please accept my apology. I acted >>>> like a jerk! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you kindly, >>>> >>>> Christopher-Mark Gilland. >>>> Founder of CLG Productions >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Panarese" <jpanar...@gmail.com> >>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 11:11 PM >>>> Subject: Re: ITunes 11 is absolutely perverted! in my opinion! >>>> >>>> >>>> If you look in the view menu and hit enter on, show Side bar, you do have >>>> a source list visible. You then can use control-option-j to jump from the >>>> source list to other areas and back. You can also use the VoiceOver web >>>> navigation commands as well, such as VO-command-j or even option-tab. >>>> >>>> My suggestion is look at the menus and experiment a bit before you jump to >>>> conclusions. It's certainly different, but I would not call it >>>> "perverted" in the least. Be patient and explore and tinker. We all have >>>> to learn it and find techniques and tips to pass along to one another. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Take Care >>>> >>>> John D. Panarese >>>> Director >>>> Mac for the Blind >>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com >>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>> Twitter, @macfortheblind >>>> >>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>> >>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>> >>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 10:32 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" >>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> OK, I don't normally bitch about Apple 峰roducts, but I have to say, what >>>>> in the cottin pickin heck! was Apple thinking! Maybe I am just not very >>>>> patient, but this is absolutely disgusting! from what I am so far seeing. >>>>> >>>>> First of all, I hear people saying the interface is much simpiler? OK, >>>>> how do you figure that? You're entitled certainly to you all's own >>>>> opinions, but lookat. Let me give my! point a vew. >>>>> >>>>> First of all, the sources list is totally 100% gone. Granted it's in a >>>>> popup button now, which is fine, except that they put it way smished in >>>>> the darn middle of the screen it seems. This means without the item >>>>> chooser, it's a pain in the butt! to get to that popup button. I can't >>>>> even jump over a lot of things by pressing vo+down arrow instead of right >>>>> arrow. If I do that, there really is no way to get with vo+down arrow to >>>>> the source popup, as it's on the top most row of the screen, so down >>>>> would take me too low, and vo+up won't work, as you kind a already are! >>>>> on the top upper most column of the screen, so... there went that! idea. >>>>> Second of all, at least that I so far can see, though I could be >>>>> incorrect on this assumption, and dear God I hope that I am, there is no >>>>> longer a list view. It's totally grid based now. Not that this is >>>>> really per sey an issue, but it does make navigating a little bit more >>>>> confusing, I'll sure as heck tell you that! >>>>> >>>>> OK, let's talk about something that for a change I do! actually like. I >>>>> love the fact that they have given us the option of sorting our music by >>>>> songs, artist, playlist, genre, or even album just by hitting vo+space on >>>>> whichever button near the top of the screen. In that sense, I think that >>>>> was an excellent idea. No, I'm not being sarcastic at all! I mean it! >>>>> That really was pretty cool. The only issue is, say you go under albums. >>>>> Now you go to the bottom of the screen and interact with the grid. I'm >>>>> finding that pressing vo+down arrow after doing so is only reading the >>>>> first 13 or so things in the list. Past this point, it insists to only >>>>> say row 14, row 15, row 16, etc. it won't read the album. Not only this, >>>>> but with the ones it does read, it's only telling me the album title, and >>>>> not the artist along with it, so I have no way necessarily of knowing who >>>>> the album is by, unless I'm already familiar with the disc. Fortunately, >>>>> I know my music quite well, so thus, I usually can tell who the disc is >>>>> by, but that could change down the road. >>>>> >>>>> Here's something else really gross in my view. I did a search while in >>>>> album view sorting for "Testify to Love." Once I did this, I noticed as >>>>> I typed, it made the most God! aweful! sound I've ever heard from my >>>>> macbook speakers. Scared the buh Jesus! outta me! Anyway, rellavant as >>>>> that is, LOL! I then vo+right arrowed and found that it showed the >>>>> results. I found Testify to Love by Avalon from the A Maize of Grace >>>>> album. So, I thought ok, bingo! I hit vo+space on it. Ding? Ding ding? >>>>> What the heck! Finally I tried to stop interacting. Turns out, that >>>>> stupid popup that came up apparently was being interacted with. After I >>>>> stopped, I was able to access the grid, but all I saw was a grid of all >>>>> the albums I had by Avalon. Vo+Space on them doesn't seem to be doing >>>>> anything more so than bringing up the album details screen. Once in that >>>>> screen, I saw where it said songs, then it said 1. Testify to Love, and >>>>> that was the only song showing. I presume this is because that is the >>>>> track that I searched for, so it's not gonna populate the whole album. >>>>> OK, fine, whatever. That makes sense I guess, whatever. I hit vo+space >>>>> on that. Again, let's hear the nice ding dong merrily on high, the >>>>> mackin bells are dingging. What the birdy butt sky, I can't do a darn >>>>> thing thing. OK, enough with my smartass comments. You get the point >>>>> though. >>>>> >>>>> Here's something else. Each device you have connected like an IPhone, or >>>>> an IPad, etc. apparently appears at the top of the screen, again, the >>>>> very top row, so forget vo+up or down to quickly get there. You gotta >>>>> move about 7 or so times to the right from the top left corner, so there >>>>> again went your really quick navigation. OK, fine, Voiceover hotspots to >>>>> the rescue, yeah, sure thing, but, that's ludicrus to have to do that >>>>> just to make very very vital points of the app easier to quickly access. >>>>> I mean, come? On! Give, me, a break! Before you flame me, and say, >>>>> Chris? your attitude is totally! uncalled for, let me just say this. For >>>>> a new Voiceover user, not that I am one, but let's only just for a moment >>>>> say that I were, this interface would be ridiculously! confusing! Is it >>>>> accessible? Yes. Extremely so, but just because it's accessible doesn't >>>>> mean it's clean. Frankly, this is probably the most disgusting interface >>>>> of any! Apple based app with the exception of IPhoto that I ever have >>>>> seen in my life! And before you say it, oh? baby? have I ever! contacted >>>>> Apple Accessibility regarding this. I was very polite, don't worry, but >>>>> I did tell them up front, between them over charging me for my last >>>>> ITunes purchase which by the way, they are refusing to refund, then other >>>>> things I won't go into here on list, plus then, now this? I mean God! >>>>> Bless! >>>>> >>>>> Oh, here's one more thing, that popup that came up that I was >>>>> automatically interacting with when I did the search for Testify to love? >>>>> I saw a button in there for adding the track to up next. OK, based on >>>>> the thread already up here, I know now what that is, and it actually >>>>> honestly sounds really really awesome. It'll be great to queue things up >>>>> like that with crossfading enabled when I use Nicecast to do my internet >>>>> broadcasts, but here's the thing. I hit vo+space on that, and I guess it >>>>> added it, but then I went back up and hit play. Nothing played though >>>>> what so ever. >>>>> >>>>> Frankly? I think I'm just gonna quit using ITunes and go v l c. This is >>>>> ridiculous! If I need music, apps, etc. I'll just use my i o s devices. >>>>> I'm sorry, but this is down right yuck in my book. >>>>> >>>>> Before you say anything, let me say this final comment then I'll be done, >>>>> I swear. Most of you, probably not all, but a ton of you probably are >>>>> gonna write me back either on list or off, most likely on, and try >>>>> imbarrassing the heck outta me either purposefully or not, by saying my >>>>> attitude is totally unacceptable, and that more so my choice of slang is >>>>> only more to show my ignorance. Allow me to say this. I do all my work >>>>> business wize with the help of I O S and my copy of ITunes. Whether that >>>>> is promoting my debut single in ITunes by playing it for people I meet on >>>>> my phone, or it's me using my phone as a calendar/roledex, or it's me >>>>> using apps like LookTel or whatever, to simplify my independence. The >>>>> bottom line is: ITunes for me is a big! big! deal. To not have good >>>>> access to it is extremely! extremely! irritating. I never said I can't, >>>>> nor will, get the hang eventually of the new version, and frankly, like >>>>> it or not, I really don't have much of a choice in the matter. I >>>>> understand that. So, I'll apologize firstly and foremost in advance to >>>>> anyone whom this e-mail may offend with my wordage, or verbiage there of, >>>>> but understand that when you have an app that works so fantasticly, then >>>>> companies think that they have to implement eye candy and totally middle >>>>> F*** the interface, that makes me extremely! angry. If it's not broken, >>>>> then God, darnit? don't fixit! I dono why for so many companies, that's >>>>> so hard to understand. >>>>> >>>>> OK, enough sauga. I'm off to learn this new damned thing. Anyone wanna >>>>> gamble with me if I figure it out or not? LOL! Just kidding. Hey! 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