Cheree Heppe here:
Suggest that, if possible, that the lady visit both the Apple store and 
somebody with a modified Windows machine and get a feel for which would be best.

Regards,
Cheree Heppe

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On 02/12/2012, at 9:20, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I see what you're saying. Still, macs can now get viruses, so you'll need to 
> protect against that whichever way you go. Yes, macs are more stable, but 
> when things go wrong you have to know what you're doing to get them back. For 
> instance, I'll sometimes hit reply in mail and get "mail busy", followed by 
> "mail ready". I finally figured out I have to cmd-accent twice to get to the 
> reply window, because vo won't focus on it by default if mail is busy and 
> cmd-tabbing fails to reset focus. Things like that which I've seen throw off 
> new users are what I'm talking about. Again, I'm not in favor of windows in 
> general, but where money is tight in this situation...
> On Dec 2, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Mauricio Almeida <mauriciopmalme...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> well, let me tell you a few things here:
>> 1: windows are n to as safe as macs are, which adds trouble for the novice 
>> user.
>> 2: windows computers are much less stable than the macs.
>> 3: nvda isn't something she will be able to get support for,unless she 
>> enters a list, which already involves some learning within itself, whereas 
>> voice over's support is already with the mac.
>> 4: why would someone start utilizing technology with something as not 
>> inclusive as windows if she could use a mc and be able to use every mac in 
>> the world after that with no additional work?
>> 
>> most times, you will find the money spent pays off.
>> 
>> mauricio
>> On Dec 2, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Okay, please don't shoot me for this, but I think it needs to be mentioned. 
>>> Sorry, but... why a mac? NVDA on Windows is much cheaper and does just as 
>>> well in pretty much everything, even better in some areas (Safari, I'm 
>>> looking at you and your lack of a flat representation). I know this is a 
>>> mac list, and I'm not saying the mac is bad, but when you can get a 
>>> reasonably good Windows laptop for $300, or the basic mac laptop for $1000, 
>>> and where money is an issue... well, you see where I'm coming from I hope.
>>> On Dec 2, 2012, at 7:54 AM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi y'all
>>>> I have a blind friend who I think is totally blind, at the very least 
>>>> close to it. She's not quite ready yet to get her technology, but she and 
>>>> I have agreed we're going to visit that issue in June when I am going to 
>>>> Houston where she lives. This friend, in my opinion, needs a Mac or an 
>>>> iPad because she can't get training because of you know why and has 
>>>> limited computer skills now. Money is an issue for this lady, so we need 
>>>> to get the best for her for what she can do. 
>>>> 
>>>> If she gets a Mac of any variety, she can sign up for one to one training 
>>>> and go there once a week if needed. I know there are some issues with this 
>>>> for VoiceOver users, but I think if we have a nice talk with the manager 
>>>> we can get someone who is willing to work with her who is willing to take 
>>>> some extra effort and would consider it fun. Of the two Mac computers, the 
>>>> Mac Mini and the MacBook Air, which one would you guys consider the best 
>>>> for a situation like hers? If she gets an iPad, she would probably need to 
>>>> rely on her blind friends who have iPhones and/or iPads to help her. I 
>>>> don't think this lady can take the group classes Apple offers for IOS 
>>>> devices like the iPhone because I don't think she could keep up, given her 
>>>> current computer knowledge. This lady is in her seventies and has decided 
>>>> to move into the 21st century because she is seeing a need for email. 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks guys for your opinions on this. 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards, 
>>>> Gigi
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have a great day,
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