I like it too, granted, the album grid is a little weird, but, I usually use 
song view anyway, I think this interface is much less cluttered than the old 1 
and I can get to things a little bit faster.


On Dec 1, 2012, at 3:44 PM, Richard Ring <richr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I actually like the new interface a lot. I'm finding it incredibly easy to 
> navigate.
> Rich ringrichring@gmail.comSent from my old and true blue White Macbook.
> 
> On Dec 1, 2012, at 3:20 PM, "Daniel Miller" <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Oh don't get me wrong, I like it too, I just feel like they could've
>> polished it a bit accessibility wise before releasing it.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 3:19 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>> 
>> I think you're right. lol.  Though in many ways I like the new interface.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> No problem. I'm starting to think that extra time apple took to 'make 
>>> everything right' didn't' pay off.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 3:07 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>> 
>>> Yeah, thanks.  Will do.
>>> Thanks for trying to help troubleshoot.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> That's really weird, because I don't have that problem. Write to 
>>>> accessibil...@apple.com, and explain your exact configuration.
>>>> What model mac you have, OS version, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 2:49 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>>> 
>>>> OK, so I navigate over to Albums and do VO-Space.  then I arrow over 
>>>> to the list of albums, and VO-arrow down to the one I want.  I press 
>>>> VO-Space, and VO says "Album Details.  I interact with that, and VO 
>>>> over to where it says Album tracks. I interact again.  There's 
>>>> obviously a grid there, but all I hear is "Blank, Text".
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donna
>>>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 9:04 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Can you give me step-by-step directions on how to reproduce the issue?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 8:53 AM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, that'd be fine, although since others seem to be having the 
>>>>> same issue, it might be useful to keep it on list.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 8:24 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Odd, cuz I have the opposite issue. I can email you off list of 
>>>>>> something if you'd like?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 8:22 AM
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No, I can see tracks fine in artist view, just not album view.
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 8:09 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That's odd, because mine works just fine. What view do you have 
>>>>>>> your library as? If it's set to artist view, there's a bug with that.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 8:00 AM
>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That's exactly what I'm doing.  But when I'm in the list of 
>>>>>>> tracks, all VO says is "one item selected, Blank text."  And if I 
>>>>>>> VO-arrow right it just keeps saying, "blank, Text".
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 5:26 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Interact with the grid, find an album you want, press VO space, 
>>>>>>>> it will expand in place, so immediately interact with the group, 
>>>>>>>> and then go all the way to the right again, and you'll see the 
>>>>>>>> album tracks
>>>>>> grid.
>>>>>>>> Yes, it's a lot of interacting, but if you visually think about 
>>>>>>>> it, the interface makes a lot of sense.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna 
>>>>>>>> Goodin
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 5:25 AM
>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yeah, but how do you see the tracks.  I hear VO say album grid, 
>>>>>>>> but I don't seem to be able to see the list of tracks.
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 5:12 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> There's an album track grid.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister 
>>>>>>>>> Ekstrom
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 4:34 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> One thing i can't get my head around is, if i have the view set 
>>>>>>>>> to albums, how can i see the list of tracks on an album i have
>>> chosen?
>>>>>>>>> This no longer does seem to work. In previous versions there was 
>>>>>>>>> a table with the tracks of a chosen album but this is gone now.
>>>>>>>>> No, i do not want the old interface back, i want to learn the 
>>>>>>>>> new one, but i want
>>>>>>>> to know this.
>>>>>>>>> /Krister
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 30 nov 2012 kl. 16:27 skrev Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net>:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, after looking closer at the window, I found the set of 
>>>>>>>>>> radio
>>>>>>>> buttons.
>>>>>>>>> Over all I like the new interface, much more stream lined.
>>>>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>>>>> You can switch to list view.
>>>>>>>>>>> There are three radio buttons.
>>>>>>>>>>> One thing i do like is the ability to see shows in the cloud.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing I don't like about the new version, and perhaps 
>>>>>>>>>>>> there is a way
>>>>>>>>> to change this, it groups your tv shows by season now, there's 
>>>>>>>>> no way that I can find to just get a list of all shows in a nice 
>>>>>>>>> long
>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:14 PM, "Daniel Miller" 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <miller...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't want to use the library, then you're out of luck. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> personally like the library.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Foret Jr
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:06 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ah, of course.  But, suppose you don't want to use the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ITunes
>>>>>>> library?
>>>>>>>>> that's always been my beaf with ITunes anyhow.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac user!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Matthew Campbell
>>>>>>>>> <wrestling.ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes 11 does have a new feature called up next. This only 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> allows you
>>>>>>>>> to cue up songs in the library though.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2012-11-29, at 2:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> file using
>>>>>>>>> finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file.  
>>>>>>>>> I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac user!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, "Daniel Miller" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <miller...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could even
>>>>>>>>> do that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and refuses
>>>>>>>>> to read with jaws when you show it.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Foret Jr
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you see, I had a problem.  Every single time I tried 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to add files
>>>>>>>>> to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally 
>>>>>>>>> fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it 
>>>>>>>>> was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes
>> 11?
>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is
>>>>>>>>> this possible?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac user!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, "Daniel Miller" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <miller...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> comes to
>>>>>>>>> navigating around the UI. On Windows, there's even more tabbing 
>>>>>>>>> around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, 
>>>>>>>>> however, I use it primarily on the Mac.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I'm 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not quite
>>>>>>>>> sure why you'd need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes 
>>>>>>>>> to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy 
>>>>>>>>> them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you 
>>>>>>>>> say you
>>>> lose.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from what
>>>>>>>>> you've seen so far?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is still
>>>>>>>>> as library dependant as the other versions have been.  IF so, it 
>>>>>>>>> will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from 
>>>>>>>>> scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record 
>>>>>>>>> myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the 
>>>>>>>>> original location and the other in my ITunes library.  I'd 
>>>>>>>>> really rather not do
>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clutters up drive space.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac user!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, "Daniel Miller" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <miller...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows side of things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Ring
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so
>>> easily.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <motte...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and redesigned store is now available for download. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't tried it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it on his Mac and I can see
>>>>>>>>> how it works with vo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mary Otten
>>>>>>>>>>>>> motte...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> 
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