Hi All, Even with UEB - Unify English Braille also have it's problem. It suppose to unite all the english braille, but it creates pmore problem. Like now, even english braile countries have different sort of UEB floting around the place.
Its a bit like a contract, i will adapt UEB, in my terms, not in your UEB code term. I know ABA, the Australia Braille Authority and the ICCE works very hard on solving this problem,. The way i see it, it won't be solve overnight, it could take years if not longer for all the party to come to some sort of "unify" agreement. I'm holding for the BrailleTouch app, and haven't have the chance to play with the TypeInBraille just yet. However, as a multi lingual braille user, i think, we can't expect one coin to use across the world, as much as we like that to happen. Even with English Braille itself, different country have different way of writing and coding English Braille. Yes, we all use grade II Braille, we all have the same basic, but at the same time, some of the contraction, specially simbles and signs can be varies from one country to another. When we talking about computer braille, is even worse. As a multi lingual and multi english braille user myself, I seriously hope that the Unify UEB will be unify soon, to solve the problems and the unnecesity that we have. Regards Joanne On 05/01/2013, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> wrote: > Uh, sir, not UED-rather-UEB. It sdtands for Unified English Braille. > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray > Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! > > On Jan 4, 2013, at 11:25 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" > <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> What is u e d anyway? >> >> Thank you kindly, >> >> Christopher-Mark Gilland. >> Founder of CLG Productions >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisette Wesseling" >> <lisettewessel...@gmail.com> >> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 8:46 PM >> Subject: Re: TypeInBraille: Leaves a lot to be desired >> >> >>> Scott >>> Sorry but UEB won't solve this issue. It only applies to English speaking >>> countries so the Europeans will keep their braille codes. >>> >>> Lisette >>> >>> On 5/01/2013, at 2:15 PM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> And this, folks, is a prime example of why we need UEB. I wish Bana >>>> wasn't taking their sweet time on the transition. Hopefully the UK >>>> will be onboard sometime soon as well. >>>> >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> On 1/4/13, Cheryl Homiak <cahom...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Actually I kind of like typeinbraille but I think I will be much faster >>>>> with >>>>> BrailleTouch. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Cheryl >>>>> >>>>> May the words of my mouth >>>>> and the meditation of my heart >>>>> be acceptable to You, Lord, >>>>> my rock and my Redeemer. >>>>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 4, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Lisette Wesseling >>>>> <lisettewessel...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Chris >>>>>> I have this app and never use it because I find the order of having >>>>>> to >>>>>> write in cumbersome. >>>>>> >>>>>> That said, there are actually various braille standards around the >>>>>> world >>>>>> and some of the symbols this app uses are correct for those standards. >>>>>> For >>>>>> example, in many European countries the capital sign is dots 46 and >>>>>> the >>>>>> period is dot 3. I wonder if this app was designed with them in >>>>>> mind? >>>>>> As far as I know though, semicolon is dots 23 in American or English >>>>>> braille. I think question mark might be the th sign. >>>>>> It's not an app designed for English grade Two use which is why I >>>>>> never >>>>>> use it. I don't know about the brackets sorry. >>>>>> >>>>>> If I were you, I'd hold off until the braille touch app becomes >>>>>> available >>>>>> in the app store this month. >>>>>> www.brailletouchapp.com is the website I believe. >>>>>> >>>>>> Type in braille is, like many of these braille apps, an interesting >>>>>> idea >>>>>> which doesn't really work in practice. >>>>>> Just my opinion. I haven't read the review but would probably >>>>>> disagree >>>>>> with it from the sound of what you say. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lisette >>>>>> >>>>>> On 5/01/2013, at 12:50 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" >>>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> OK, I was all? most! convinced to buy this app after hearing David's >>>>>>> review on AppleVis. Before I go any further, let me just say that >>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>> referring to the TypeInBraille I O S app. So again, this is for I O >>>>>>> S, >>>>>>> not for O S X. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I then heard a few things which really! were deal breakers. I'm >>>>>>> just >>>>>>> wonderring if someone can answer a few questions, and maybe help me >>>>>>> understand the logic of a few things. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> First, the logic side of it: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. dot 3 is a period? Huh? I thought that a period would be dots >>>>>>> 2, 5, >>>>>>> 6 in grade 2 braille, or in computer braille, would be dots 4 6. So >>>>>>> then, how do you make an apostrophy which normally is! dot 3, both >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> grade 2, as well as in computer braille? OK, this leads me to the >>>>>>> next >>>>>>> point. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. Dots 4 6 is a capital letter? I thought 4 6 was a period in >>>>>>> computer >>>>>>> braille, and in grade 2, if written by itself was the bold face >>>>>>> indicator. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. Slash is a low d? 2, 4, 5? I thought that was the number 4 in >>>>>>> computer braille, or a period in grade 2 or a dd sign if in the >>>>>>> middle of >>>>>>> a word, or d i s sign at the beginning of a word. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4. Semicolon is dots 2 3? Wut? I thought 2 3 was a bb sign in >>>>>>> grade 2, >>>>>>> or in computer braille was the number 2. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 5. Dot 5 is an at simmble? I thought that was dot 4. More >>>>>>> specifically, I always learned it as dot 4 A. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now for my questions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Can we not type in grade 2 and have it translate? >>>>>>> 2. How do I type an exclaimation mark? >>>>>>> 3. If dot 5 is the at simble, then how do I do my quote marks? Is >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> still low h to start, and low j to end like in grade 2? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4. How do I do a question mark? >>>>>>> 5. Are my left and right parenthesis still written with the o f >>>>>>> sign, >>>>>>> and the with sign or do I do that more like grade 2, with low g both >>>>>>> ways, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I dono... There are just enough things here that do not seem to >>>>>>> follow >>>>>>> correct braille standard from what I can see, that I really am not >>>>>>> totally sure until I understand why they couldn't have incorporated >>>>>>> correct braille characterization that make this a major! major >>>>>>> major! >>>>>>> deal breaker for me. Plus, I'd like to know if grade 2's an option. >>>>>>> If >>>>>>> it is, and someone can explain to me why such strange ways of >>>>>>> writing >>>>>>> some a those characters, then? I might! key word, might! consider >>>>>>> buying >>>>>>> it, but I need some clarification first. I'm not trying to >>>>>>> complain, >>>>>>> believe me. It's just that when I've been tought correct braille, >>>>>>> it's >>>>>>> very confusing trying to change to another form which may as wel >>>>>>> almost >>>>>>> be it's own seperet braille table in itself. Maybe I'm just too >>>>>>> picky, I >>>>>>> dono, but I'd rather it be done correctly, ya know? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you kindly, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Christopher-Mark Gilland. >>>>>>> Founder of CLG Productions >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups >>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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