Gotta love hearing loss, huh.

Thank you kindly,

Christopher-Mark Gilland.
Founder of CLG Productions
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ray Foret Jr 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 3:08 AM
  Subject: Re: TypeInBraille: Leaves a lot to be desired


  Uh, sir, not UED-rather-UEB.  It sdtands for Unified English Braille.




  Sincerely,
  The Constantly Barefooted Ray
  Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!


  On Jan 4, 2013, at 11:25 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


    What is u e d anyway?

    Thank you kindly,

    Christopher-Mark Gilland.
    Founder of CLG Productions
    ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisette Wesseling" 
<lisettewessel...@gmail.com>
    To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
    Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 8:46 PM
    Subject: Re: TypeInBraille: Leaves a lot to be desired



      Scott
      Sorry but UEB won't solve this issue. It only applies to English speaking 
countries so the Europeans will keep their braille codes.

      Lisette

      On 5/01/2013, at 2:15 PM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> wrote:


        And this, folks, is a prime example of why we need UEB. I wish Bana
        wasn't taking their sweet time on the transition. Hopefully the UK
        will be onboard sometime soon as well.

        Scott

        On 1/4/13, Cheryl Homiak <cahom...@gmail.com> wrote:

          Actually I kind of like typeinbraille but I think I will be much 
faster with
          BrailleTouch.

          --
          Cheryl

          May the words of my mouth
          and the meditation of my heart
          be acceptable to You, Lord,
          my rock and my Redeemer.
          (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



          On Jan 4, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
<lisettewessel...@gmail.com>
          wrote:


            Hi Chris
            I have this app and never use it because I find the order of having 
to
            write in cumbersome.

            That said, there are actually various braille standards around the 
world
            and some of the symbols this app uses are correct for those 
standards. For
            example, in many European countries the capital sign is dots 46 and 
the
            period is dot 3. I wonder if this app was designed with  them in 
mind?
            As far as I know though, semicolon is dots 23 in American  or 
English
            braille. I think question mark might be the th sign.
            It's not an app designed for English grade Two use which is why I 
never
            use it. I don't know about the brackets sorry.

            If I were you, I'd hold off until the braille touch app becomes 
available
            in the app store this month.
            www.brailletouchapp.com is the website I believe.

            Type in braille is, like many of these braille apps, an interesting 
idea
            which doesn't really work in practice.
            Just my opinion. I haven't read the review but would probably 
disagree
            with it from the sound of what you say.

            Lisette

            On 5/01/2013, at 12:50 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
            <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


              OK, I was all? most! convinced to buy this app after hearing 
David's
              review on AppleVis.  Before I go any further, let me just say 
that I'm
              referring to the TypeInBraille I O S app.  So again, this is for 
I O S,
              not for O S X.

              I then heard a few things which really! were deal breakers.  I'm 
just
              wonderring if someone can answer a few questions, and maybe help 
me
              understand the logic of a few things.

              First, the logic side of it:

              1.  dot 3 is a period?  Huh?  I thought that a period would be 
dots 2, 5,
              6 in grade 2 braille, or in computer braille, would be dots 4 6.  
So
              then, how do you make an apostrophy which normally is! dot 3, 
both in
              grade 2, as well as in computer braille?  OK, this leads me to 
the next
              point.

              2.  Dots 4 6 is a capital letter?  I thought 4 6 was a period in 
computer
              braille, and in grade 2, if written by itself was the bold face
              indicator.

              3.  Slash is a low d? 2, 4, 5?  I thought that was the number 4 in
              computer braille, or a period in grade 2 or a dd sign if in the 
middle of
              a word, or d i s sign at the beginning of a word.

              4.  Semicolon is dots 2 3?  Wut?  I thought 2 3 was a bb sign in 
grade 2,
              or in computer braille was the number 2.

              5.  Dot 5 is an at simmble?  I thought that was dot 4.  More
              specifically, I always learned it as dot 4 A.

              Now for my questions.

              1.  Can we not type in grade 2 and have it translate?
              2.  How do I type an  exclaimation mark?
              3.  If dot 5 is the at simble, then how do I do my quote marks?  
Is that
              still low h to start, and low j to end like in grade 2?

              4.  How do I do a question mark?
              5.  Are my left and right parenthesis still written with the o f 
sign,
              and the with sign or do I do that more like grade 2, with low g 
both
              ways, etc.

              I dono...  There are just enough things here that do not seem to 
follow
              correct braille standard from what I can see, that I really am not
              totally sure until I understand why they couldn't have 
incorporated
              correct braille characterization that make this a major! major 
major!
              deal breaker for me. Plus, I'd like to know if grade 2's an 
option. If
              it is, and someone can explain to me why such strange ways of 
writing
              some a those characters, then? I might! key word, might! consider 
buying
              it, but I need some clarification first.  I'm not trying to 
complain,
              believe me.  It's just that when I've been tought correct 
braille, it's
              very confusing trying to change to another form which may as wel 
almost
              be it's own seperet braille table in itself.  Maybe I'm just too 
picky, I
              dono, but I'd rather it be done correctly, ya know?

              Thank you kindly,

              Christopher-Mark Gilland.
              Founder of CLG Productions
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