Hi Steve and Kristeen Although it probably won't do everything that's wanted, I did figure out how to get into a message with the braille display so it can be read. It seems to work every time. If you press spacebar and the letter e, it's like doing the return key. I've done it several times this time and got it to work every time.
Regards, Gigi On Jan 5, 2013, at 3:52 AM, Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com> wrote: > What Christine wants to do is use the command bound to VO-J; I don't remember > the exact name for it but it allows for jumping between different parts of > the screen and remain interacted with the same. I use it a lot in iTunes and > Mail. For Mail it jumps immediately between the list of mail folders and the > message list for the currently selected mail box. One would need to map a > vacant Braille display command to this VO command to accomplish the desired > results. > > Yes, I agree; I wish there were a way to simulate full OS 10 key combinations > on a Braille display; that would be really hot. > > On Jan 4, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote: > >> Hi again Kristeen. >> Well, I discovered that it doesn't always work. I got it to work the first >> time, but when I tried it again, it didn't work. In fact, it's real strange. >> It interacts and then says dimmed, even though it's still there and >> everything. I got the space D to work to delete an email. Say, let me know >> if you get the same result. >> >> Regards, >> Gigi >> >> On Jan 4, 2013, at 8:08 PM, Kristeen Hughes <khwi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Iggie, I'll try that. >>> >>> You can customize some things under Braille in the Voiceover utility, but >>> you can only customize the choices that are offered and so many things are >>> not. Apple has a way to go with their Braille support on the Mac. I'm >>> hoping it's better on the iOS platform. I've heard it is. >>> >>> Kristeen >>> >>> On Jan 4, 2013, at 8:08 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Chkristine. >>>> I just gfigured out how to interact with messages with your braille >>>> display. I thought it would work, and it did. Try pressing space bar with >>>> dots 2-3-6. I tested the other day to uninteract. That command is space >>>> bar and the dots 3-5-6. In other words, spacebar with the question mark to >>>> do it, and space bar with the low j to undo it. >>>> >>>> If you want to turn your speech off, do space bar and the letter m >>>> together. By the way, screen curtain is space bar and the for sign >>>> together. The muting command is same one if you want your speech back. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Gigi >>>> >>>> On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Kristeen Hughes <khwi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks to you all. My questions are a bit more specific, I think. I would >>>>> like to be able to use the display without having the voice on at all. I >>>>> was able to function with just a Braille display when I used Windows and >>>>> I could turn the Jaws speech off or mute it. When I try to do that with >>>>> the Mac, I continue to discover things I can't figure out how to do with >>>>> VO and the Focus or any other Braille display. >>>>> >>>>> For example, is there any way to simulate the VO command? Without that a >>>>> lot of things are not able to be done. If, for example, I am looking at >>>>> my list of E-Mail messages, and I wish to read one, I cannot do a VO J >>>>> command to get into the message. That is just an example. >>>>> >>>>> Kristeen >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 4, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Dan Eickmeier <va3ets2...@me.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have a Brailliant BI 40, and it works nicely on the MAc, and iOS as >>>>>> well. >>>>>> On 2013-01-03, at 2:35 PM, Chris Bruinenberg <cbrui...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a Braille conect and it works great with iOS windows and Mac. >>>>>>> Best of luck deciding on one! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think the code is 0000 for the Focus. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Les >>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Kristeen. >>>>>>>>> VoiceOver should recognize your Focus 40 Blue, whether you are using >>>>>>>>> your Mac, your IOS device, or a Windows computer. I've connected to a >>>>>>>>> Windows compchter with Blue Tooth. I have with my Mac and iPhone. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The one thing that I am finding is that you will want to connect it >>>>>>>>> within the VoiceOver utility. With my braille display, even after >>>>>>>>> it's on the list of devices, if I go to the turn Bluetooth on and try >>>>>>>>> that way, I get an error message, even though it's on the list. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When you connect it within the VO utility, y'blind want to make sure >>>>>>>>> you have the braille display turned on before you tell Vo to find it. >>>>>>>>> That sounds obvious, but these things can be kind of sensitive if >>>>>>>>> they don't find each other right away. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> After Vo finds your display you will then be asked to put in a code. >>>>>>>>> Some of them are 1234 and some are 0000, so others here can tell you >>>>>>>>> what the code is for the Focus 40 Blue. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> After that, you should do ok. Congratulations on getting a braille, >>>>>>>>> of things, for a Christmas present. I never got anything that good >>>>>>>>> for Christmas. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Gigi >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can email me off list, but I think this discussion can most >>>>>>>>>> likely >>>>>>>>>> help others. Even if not imediatley, someone may later wish to search >>>>>>>>>> the list archives for this topic and will find the thread you >>>>>>>>>> started. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Scott >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 1/3/13, erik burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> you can email me off list if you like. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Erik Burggraaf >>>>>>>>>>> Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, >>>>>>>>>>> starting >>>>>>>>>>> at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. >>>>>>>>>>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >>>>>>>>>>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-01-03, at 8:14 AM, Kristeen Hughes <khwi...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I just receiveed a focus 40 Blue for a gift. I am wondering a lot >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> things. Is there someone who would be willing to talk with me off >>>>>>>>>>>> list so >>>>>>>>>>>> as not to clutter? 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