Hello Cheree, IOS is a simplified operating system whereas Mac OS x is much more sophisticated. You can't just transfer your IOS skills to the Mac. Even the Trackpad commander behaves differently from the gestures used on IOS.
You really need to work through the built-in tutorial which you can start at any time by pressing Control-Option-Command-F8. Use VO-k to learn the keyboard, and use VO-h-h to discover the range of commands available. For standard Mac OS short cuts, look at the menu items for any application. VO-m will take you to the menu bar, then right arrow will take you along the menus. Down arrow will take you down each menu and the short cut is announced at the end of each command. When activating a menu item, press Return. When you encounter a button, press VO-Space bar. To look at the contents of tables, grids, scroll areas, drawers, groups, etc, interact. Always interact with text areas to be able to use all the VO text commands. Cheers, Anne On 9 Jan 2013, at 20:56, Cheree Heppe <che...@dogsc4me.com> wrote: > Cheree Heppe here: > This topic comes at a great time, as, with this newly acquired MaccBook Air, > I am experiencing difficulties. > > First, when the MBA turns on from a shut down, there is no audio signal to > indicate that it is at a log-in screen or that it has come on at all. It > seems that there should be a setting in VoiceOver to speak on start-up; or, a > means to install something that will make a sound or tonal sequence, etc. > What is the actual situation? > > Commands in the built-in tutorial use keystrokes of three or more keys > simultaneously to engage or perform one action. I have the usual compliment > of fingers for a human, but, this is a lot like clumsy and slow to me. Are > there other sets of command structures that would add more fluidity to the > command keystrokes? > > The tutorial is where I started, but I didn't get far for the reason that > when I had to break off for some reason, I could not come back easily to my > stopping point. > > The reps at the Apple store have valiantly struggled through two hour-long > sessions and we all were getting pretty discouraged and frustrated. > > Without having a strong basis yet, it nevertheless seems that the IOS > platform works far more intuitively and fluidly or integratively. The MAC > platform seems compartmentalized and piecy in the way blind users have to > access the usage. The trackpad will speak elements, but response time > between one's touching an element and the speaking of what's under a finger > is so sluggish that the finger could have, and probably has moved on and > misinformation occurs. Touching with the MAC trackpad does not respond > anywhere near at the speed or fluidity or seemlessness that the IOS devices > do. > > Suggestions welcome. > > > Regards, > Cheree Heppe > > > Sent from my IPhone 4S > > On 09/01/2013, at 10:01, "Phil Halton" <philh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yes, > 1) take the VoiceOver tutorial by pressing VO, Command, F8 > 2) repeatedly read the mountain lion with VoiceOver manual. It can be found > on Apple's website, and also under the VoiceOver help menu (VO H) > > 3) make liberal use of the keyboard help function (VO K) > 4) , explore and get very frustrated over and over again until frustration > goes away. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hole" <balubathebr...@gmail.com> > To: "MacVisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 12:28 PM > Subject: How to help blind people new to Mac learn it as fast and smooth as > possible > > >> Hi folks. >> >> As far as I know, there are many here in this group who are helping >> blind people switching from Windows to Mac. >> Do you have any strategies to help them get fast into the VoiceOver >> commands, and how they can "distance" them selves from the Windows >> platform, and learn Mac the best way there is? >> For example, is the best way to first learn to use VoiceOver with the >> QuickKeys, or the hard way with so many keys pressed at once some >> times? >> What about what to learn first, do you learn them a piece of software >> (such as Mail or Safari) or how the OS and how VoiceOver interacts >> with it before going into apps? >> >> All comments on this is really welcome. >> >> Best regards David >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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