considering my training and background, foisting machines off on the taxpayer and then rationing them out to VR clients only after a big go around smacks of misappropriation of public funds and malfeasance. Thats a strong accusation I know, but its more often the truth than not.
-eric On Apr 10, 2013, at 8:11 AM, Scott Berry wrote: > Ah actually it might be. The reason I say that is because it's a waste of > public funds and those people who pay taxes. > On 4/10/13 5:53, Donna Goodin wrote: >> Hi Eric, >> >> Well, to be fair, I don't think it's been in the warehouse for five years, >> but it wouldn't surprise me if it's been in there for one or two. And the >> fact that you have a stockpile of something just isn't the factor that >> should be the basis for selecting a person's technology. So yeah, I agree >> with you, it should be suable, but I don't think it is. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> On Apr 10, 2013, at 12:07 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> having items in a wherehouse for 5 years?> thats a waste of public funds, >>> not to mention a potential pollution hazard. I don't think there would be >>> much aftermarket support for such machines. In fact, the entities that >>> stockpiled all this equipment and never disbursed it to the clients should >>> be prosecuted under federal laws for fraud, malfeasance, criminal >>> withholding and a bunch of other appropriate charges. This smacks of the >>> kind of government waste that is breaking our nation and making us the >>> laughing stock of the rest of the world. >>> >>> -eric >>> >>> On Apr 9, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Erik, >>>> >>>> Thanks for this. Unfortunately I live in the rural backwater that is >>>> southern Illinois. Our VR people are at least 10 years behind. What >>>> they've told my student is that they already have PCs and copies of JAWS >>>> stock-piled in a warehouse, so even if the mac cost $5 it would be more >>>> expensive. >>>> >>>> GRRRRRRRRRR. >>>> Best, >>>> Donna >>>> On Apr 9, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I haven't done so myself, but it is possible. >>>>> >>>>> The 2 justifications that can be used are: >>>>> 1. lower cost of ownership (as accessibility is included) >>>>> 2. Greater included feature set for the cost involved (built in camera, >>>>> bluetooth, wi-fi, firewire, USB 2.x or greater, full apple repair >>>>> support, minimal training cost and plenty of supported hardware options). >>>>> >>>>> now, getting an equivalent windows machine involves the acquisition of >>>>> the machine, additional hardware, cost of the operating system, SMA for >>>>> jaws ($250 per year), jaws itself ($890 for 2 keys), hardware only >>>>> support from dell, etc. the cost of the windows machine is actually >>>>> higher on a total cost of ownership basis than a mac would be. also, >>>>> voiceover on the apple doesn't require a yearly SMA and OS upgrades are >>>>> inexpensive. >>>>> >>>>> cost of macbook pro with mountain lion OS: $1500 low end >>>>> cost of dell laptop with windows 7, MS Office 2012, jaws, SMA an >>>>> equivalent hardware options: $1900 low end. >>>>> >>>>> believe me, I use both here and I much prefer the macbook over the >>>>> windows machine for sheer usefulness. >>>>> >>>>> the best justification that can be made to VR is the cost. the 2nd best >>>>> is that the employer requires training and use of apple products in their >>>>> office environment. >>>>> >>>>> outside of those, I don't have a clear idea how to convince VR to >>>>> cooperate. >>>>> >>>>> -eric >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 9, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am trying to advocate for student who is having difficulty getting >>>>>> rehab services to purchase a Mac for her. I would be interested in >>>>>> hearing from those of you who have gotten rehab to purchase a Mac. 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