Really? A friend ofmine and a patron, were discussing this earlier. Their excuse is, that it will make the device weigh more. how does addedda ccessibility in software make it heavier? I know it might effect the batery but not by that much. You can't rely on Apple to carry you folks, that's not how this thing works. i know this is why they focus so much now on the app and have left the devices out in hopes that Apple will carry them. I get the complaint that it will cost money, but so what. I as a blind onsumer want or would love a Kindle paperwhite, or a Kindle fire one day because it's just a little more affordable for my budget than say another iPad, but you're telling me you don't want my money and you're not going to make a device that I can use and you're going to not give me accessibility so I can help increase your market? oor thinking on their part. I heard about this this morning and can't believe it but then I can. Amazon is always good about making excuses and finding loopholes to get out of accessibility. In the same vain though, I have to say this much. Apple set a standard that we all expect now because it just works and is the right thing to do. Amazon has b een doing this thing a little longer, and they've got this cloud thing down, but they have always refused to make it accessible or sticking a bandaid over it and making it better. Don't get me wrong, I love the app, use it daily, on both my phone and iPad, but if one of those breaks I might want to go grab a Kindle from wherever and have it already set up to get my books and media content just like my sighted peer over there, or my wife. And, you're telling me no? I shouldn't have to find a workaround to get your prodcuts to work they should say, it should be made accessible. No questions asked, either get it done or close it up but we all know that doesn't work that way. Ok, I'm coming off my soap box and getting some braille books ready to send patrons this afternoon, my public is calling for the real stuff, but that's my take. They need to rethink this whoel thing and stop making sniveling excuses as to why, and just make it work. If we, as a public made excuses as to why we can't do our job, you know what would happen? Yeah. Gone. Outta here, close it up. Same principle should hold here, it should be mandatory for things of that nature, all access, all inclusive. Done. Ok, I stop now, take care guys. sorry for the rambble and getting off on a tangient but when Amazon and these other Ereaders go and do something like this and I'm excluded I'm a bit aggravated. Take care. On Aug 7, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> That's sort of like telling Mac users that to get an accessible experience > with the XYZ app to just use Windows. Oh, Microsoft already does that with > Office. Guess they don't have to worry since that app isn't FCC regulated. > > CB > > On 8/7/13 1:21 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >> Hi there >> Yes, and we all know which "disability" they are talking about, and it's not >> the disabled they are talking about either. They are talking about the >> blind, but of course, they didn't say so. They might as well have. After >> all, most of the other disabilities can read the print. When I heard about >> this law, I had a feeling this kind of thing was going to start with the "we >> can't" people. >> >> Hey, I guess you guys noticed how they want to solve the accessibility >> problem, right! They want to let Apple carrying them along by saying we can >> all use iPads etc.! >> Regards, >> Gigi >> >> Regards, >> Gigi >> >> On Aug 7, 2013, at 10:02 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: >> >>> I can't believe the FCC would even consider that. They should say, >>> absolutely not. These devices must be made accessible, end of story. >>> Original message: >>>> Hello all: >>>> In follow-up to Karen's post last night, I am posting information >>>> regarding FCC's request for comments on this issue. I hope that many of >>>> you will take the time to comment. >>>> Best, >>>> Donna >>>> Request for Comment on Petition for Class Waiver of Accessibility Rules >>>> for ACS >>>> On August 1, 2013, the Federal Communication Commission (FCC) released a >>>> Public Notice requesting comment on a petition filed by the Coalition of >>>> E-Reader Manufacturers. The Coalition requests that the Commission waive >>>> its rules requiring equipment used for advanced communications services >>>> (ACS) to be accessible by people with disabilities. The Coalition states >>>> that, although e-readers are equipment that consumers can use for ACS, >>>> they are designed primarily for reading. >>>> To distinguish e-readers from tablets and other devices that would not be >>>> subject to the waiver request, the Coalition requests a waiver for >>>> e-readers that have the following features: >>>> (1) they have no LCD screen; >>>> (2) they have no camera; >>>> (3) they are not offered or shipped to consumers with built-in ACS client >>>> applications and their manufacturers do not develop ACS applications for >>>> their respective devices, though the devices may include a browser and >>>> social media applications; and >>>> (4) they are marketed to consumers as reading devices and promotional >>>> material does not tout the capability to access ACS. >>>> Comment Deadline: September 3, 2013 >>>> Reply Comment Deadline: September 13, 2013 >>>> Links to the Public Notice (including filing instructions): >>> >>>> (PDF) http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-13-1686A1.pdf >>>> <http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-13-1686A1.pdf> >>>> (Word) http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-13-1686A1.doc >>>> <http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-13-1686A1.doc> >>>> (Text) http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-13-1686A1.txt >>>> <http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-13-1686A1.txt> >>>> Link to the Coalition Petition (May 15, 2013): >>>> http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7022314526 >>>> <http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7022314526> >>>> Link to the Letter Supplementing the Coalition Petition (July 17, 2013): >>>> http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7520931307 >>>> <http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7520931307> >>>> For further information, please contact Eliot Greenwald at (202) 418-2235 >>>> oreliot.greenw...@fcc.gov >>>> <mailto:eliot.greenw...@fcc.gov><mailto:eliot.greenw...@fcc.gov >>>> <mailto:eliot.greenw...@fcc.gov>>; or Rosaline Crawford at (202) 418-2075 >>>> orrosaline.crawf...@fcc.gov >>>> <mailto:rosaline.crawf...@fcc.gov><mailto:rosaline.crawf...@fcc.gov >>>> <mailto:rosaline.crawf...@fcc.gov>>. >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out >>>> <https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out>. >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> > > -- > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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