Hi,

I think the idea that accessibility is less important to Apple since the death 
of Steve Jobs is nothing more than pure speculation and if anyone can prove 
otherwise, I would love to see the evidence. I see no value in such comments.

Robert Carter


On Dec 17, 2013, at 7:42 AM, Scott B. <sb356...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Absolutely right.  They can talking to engineering.  But engeeniering has the 
> final say.  I agree since the great Steve Jobs has passed we're probably not 
> seeing as much interaction from Accessibility as people saw before.  To sum 
> it up very briefly Accessibility is where you take the accessibility 
> suggestions or problems.  They either act upon them y supporting you the 
> person who needs help or passing it on to the engineering team by escalation. 
> Please also keep in mind these are tier 2 support personnel so they can't 
> know everything either so be easy on these people.
> 
> 
> On 12/17/2013 03:37, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> Of late, I have noticed complaints against the Apple accessibility team as 
>> if to suggest that we are being ignored.  It seems to be the belief of some 
>> that the Apple accessibility team fixes accessibility bugs and problems with 
>> Voice Over.  I do not believe that this is the case.  It is my belief that 
>> the Apple accessibility team has, in fact, a very limited role at Apple.  
>> Frankly, with the passing of the late great Steve Jobs, that role has 
>> perhaps demenished greatly. I believe that the Apple accessibility team 
>> never has had actual decision making capacity with respect to actual 
>> implementation of fixes for Voice Over.  They didn’t even have this power 
>> under Steve Jobs.  Unless I am very much mistaken, all the accessibility 
>> team has any power to do is to forward our findings over to the development 
>> teams but nothing more.  They cannot even tell us whether or not our reports 
>> will be acted upon.  Now, this last is most likely a part of Apple’s non 
>> disclosure policy:  however, I suspect that even if this was not so, Apple’s 
>> accessibility team would not be informed in any case.  In short, it seems 
>> that the only function that this accessibility team has and will ever have 
>> at Apple is not much more than a kind of clearing house of feedback from us 
>> blind users.  I cannot help wonder how many Apple app developmental teams 
>> look at submissions from the accessibility team and say to themselves, “Oh, 
>> no, not again.”.  I suspect that this explains why it is that our reports 
>> seem to go unheeded.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
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