Hi Sandi,

You currently own your last ever optical scanner I strongly suspect.  Your 
current generation mobile device has a camera with better image resolution than 
your scanner and a quad core processer more than capable of delivering OCR. So 
your next scanning peripheral is a tray with a boom attached for not much more 
than the cost of a run of the mill scanner nowadays.  Your mobile device will 
sit on the top of the boom and will be perfectly aligned and oriented to give 
you accurate scanning results.  You will place your book or paper on the tray 
and snap pictures on your mobile device.  You will then ocr the pictures or 
send the images off directly to the cloud or an email recipient.  I did this 
very thing last week and it worked out very well.  The scanning process was 
easy and the ocr was very accurate even if the processing time was a little 
slow.

The areas that currently need improvement on the mobile platform are advanced 
word processing, spreadsheeting, and presentation building, as well as audio 
and video editing.  Oddly enough, databasing is really solid on the mobile 
platforms.  You can do business admon very nicely and sync it with your desktop 
via the cloud.

I can't wait for the pc to die.  Meanwhile, NVDA should be anyones first choice 
for windows computing.  That thing has rocked the competition's socks off for 
years now.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

On 2014-01-21, at 8:18 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse <sandi1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> hi Eric, as always well written.
> I have to admit  have not thought of that, but of course it is a given
> that " special " products will be less and less needed.
> if you mean that fewer and fewer computers are being sold, it is both
> exciting and also scary. I for one wonder how i would connect my
> scanner too my iPad, or what ever that little device is called in 2, 3
> years time  smiles.
> I have always found that jaws did what it was suppose too do, but it
> simply costs too much and i moved on too linux, from linux to mac. Am
> actually considering messing with linux again. however that is another
> story.
> What i think honestly  is this, today stick with nvda, it is cheap, =
> free, open, and it really gets the job done.
> My next project will be in Espeak too make something that sounds like
> eloquence, am not saying it will be easy, but it should be doable. Mac
> and windows, the best of 2 worlds.
> if you wanna get something done in this wonderful world as a blind
> person, you sometimes granded gotta know more about the things you are
> using, but in the end it will just make you stronger.
> best
> 
> 
> 
> Sandi
> 
> On 1/21/14, Daniel Hawkins <computersassocia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> That’s an ouch! Whell somebody just wasted $1,000 for a Surface Pro. Wait!
>> NVDA to the rescue! lol.
>> 
>> Maybe partnered with MS it will be slipstreamed in Windows 9? Hopfully!
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>> 4GB DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> 
>> On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:40 PM, David Tanner <david.tanner...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> One thing that may be a bit of an issue is that looking at Jaws, NVDA,
>>> Window-Eyes and even adding System Access to the list, Window-Eyes is the
>>> only one out of the four that apparently has no ability to be used on a
>>> Windows 8 tablet.  That may be an issue that Microsoft hasn’t taken into
>>> consideration.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Hawkins
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:02 PM
>>> To: Mac Visionary
>>> Subject: Re: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen reader
>>> built in
>>> 
>>> Lol, Windows 3.1 is a little before my time. But in a way Microsoft is
>>> trying to catch up, their Windows 8 Pro can do both do the ARM based
>>> Windows 8 apps and are cross platforms. Apple are slowly intregrating IOS
>>> and Mac. And Google have the Chromebook.
>>> 
>>> As ARM based cpu get more powerful that can bridge the gap between Intel
>>> based OS it will be streamlined soon. Even Linux is now getting into ARM
>>> bsed OS.
>>> 
>>> So in that case, I still think the three major screenreaders will be
>>> around.Unless JAWS can’t keep their contracts, they will be forced to
>>> lower their prices, so we will see.
>>> Daniel Hawkins
>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>>> 
>>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>>> 4GB DDR3
>>> 500GB HDD
>>> 
>>> Dual Boot:
>>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2014, at 5:45 PM, erik burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hey guys,  Another thing has occurred to me about this.  As you know,
>>> window-eyes has been under developed for several years.  You might not be
>>> aware that the personal computer is set to go on the long tail in 2016.
>>> Sales of personal computers have been falling by about 30 per sent per
>>> year.  April 2013 was the worst quarter for PC sales in 20 years.  In 2012
>>> smartphones made up more than 50 per sent of all cell phone use in the
>>> United States.  In 2013, Tablet sales exploded and the tablet is poised to
>>> out sell the personal computer in 2014.
>>> 
>>> It will take a long time for corporate and government to catch up, but
>>> they are both already in the mobile space.  Where do jaws, Window-eyes,
>>> and even NVDA fit in to the 5 year trend of the over all market?
>>> Especially with IPhone and android being very high quality accessibility
>>> choices and new accessibility features emerging on Blackberry to compete
>>> with the other two leading mobile platforms.
>>> 
>>> Remember when windows 3.1 came along and people started competing for
>>> access to windows?  How many market leading companies raced to add
>>> accessibility features.  Let's see…  henter-joice, gw michro, synthavoice
>>> computers, artic, dolphin, AISquared…  How many of those companies, most
>>> of whom are still with us, have competed for anything in the mobile space?
>>> AISquared, codefactory, that's all I can think of.  Humanware and AFB
>>> have stepped into the mobile space but their efforts have met with mixed
>>> success.
>>> 
>>> Very few of Our so called leaders in accessibility are hungry for shares
>>> of the new economy the way they were when windows 95 came out and blind
>>> people could somewhat use it.
>>> 
>>> Could it be that there is no money or not as much money as we think in the
>>> window-eyes for office move and that it's part of an exit strategy to keep
>>> as much value in the product as possible for as long as possible?  I'm
>>> sure Dan and Doug have rock solid RRSPs/retirement packages  So do Eric
>>> and the other FS bigwigs.  These people aren't showing the drive to
>>> innovate that they once did.  They are in fact, stodgy.  What has GW done
>>> for us lately?  Proprietary desktop applications  for skype and facebook,
>>> both of which are much more accessible in the mobile space to begin with
>>> and both of which are better suited to the mobile space than the desktop
>>> space IMHO.  It's GW's attempt to coast through for another couple of
>>> years until the pc space evaporates and the heads can retire.
>>> 
>>> All speculation on my part.  I loved  window-eyes when it was on the
>>> cutting edge.  I just don't see it now though.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
>>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>> 
>>> On 2014-01-20, at 5:45 PM, "Christina C." <blindmaclo...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I do not understand all of the ins and outs of this but overall it appears
>>> to be a positive thing for blind and visually impaired as well as for
>>> others with  various disabilities and challenges requiring adaptive
>>> software and equipment. I did crack up at the line about being leaders.
>>> LOL! They are behind the ball if you ask me. I love apple and my mac and
>>> that is where my loyalties are at this point. I do think this opens doors
>>> and that can always be a good thing. Maybe this will benefit me in some
>>> way in the future especially since I’d like the ability to use a robust
>>> OCR  scanning software with a camera instead of a traditional scanner.
>>> Maybe one day I will consider putting windows on my computer with  boot
>>> camp or a virtual environment. So, for me this topic is important to
>>> discuss even though I am a mac user.
>>> 
>>> Christina
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