I am under the impression that all
Applications/programs/software, which can run on
a LapTop PC can also run on Microsoft's Surface
PRO, which means that GW Micro's WindowEYES
should be able to run on Microsoft's Surface PRO.
What I am NOT sure is if GW Micro's WindowEYES
can run on Microsoft's Surface (RT) primarily
because it is only limited to Microsoft related
content along with Apps from the Microsoft Windows App Store.
Sorry to be replying OFF LIST, but this subject IS NOT MAC related .
I it is possible that Microsoft might merge both
its Narrator and GW Microsoft's WindowEYES into 1
text-to-speech (TTS). Who KNOWS?
Sent From Berkeley,CA
At 11:44 AM 1/21/2014, you wrote:
That's an ouch! Whell somebody just wasted
$1,000 for a Surface Pro. Wait! NVDA to the rescue! lol.
Maybe partnered with MS it will be slipstreamed in Windows 9? Hopfully!
Daniel Hawkins
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2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD
Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:40 PM, David Tanner
<<mailto:david.tanner...@gmail.com>david.tanner...@gmail.com> wrote:
One thing that may be a bit of an issue is that
looking at Jaws, NVDA, Window-Eyes and even
adding System Access to the list, Window-Eyes
is the only one out of the four that apparently
has no ability to be used on a Windows 8
tablet. That may be an issue that Microsoft hasn't taken into consideration.
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On Behalf Of Daniel Hawkins
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:02 PM
To: Mac Visionary
Subject: Re: Looks like Windows is also heading
toward full screen reader built in
Lol, Windows 3.1 is a little before my time.
But in a way Microsoft is trying to catch up,
their Windows 8 Pro can do both do the ARM
based Windows 8 apps and are cross platforms.
Apple are slowly intregrating IOS and Mac. And Google have the Chromebook.
As ARM based cpu get more powerful that can
bridge the gap between Intel based OS it will
be streamlined soon. Even Linux is now getting into ARM bsed OS.
So in that case, I still think the three major
screenreaders will be around.Unless JAWS can't
keep their contracts, they will be forced to
lower their prices, so we will see.
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD
Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
On Jan 20, 2014, at 5:45 PM, erik burggraaf
<<mailto:e...@erik-burggraaf.com>e...@erik-burggraaf.com> wrote:
Hey guys, Another thing has occurred to me
about this. As you know, window-eyes has been
under developed for several years. You might
not be aware that the personal computer is set
to go on the long tail in 2016. Sales of
personal computers have been falling by about
30 per sent per year. April 2013 was the worst
quarter for PC sales in 20 years. In 2012
smartphones made up more than 50 per sent of
all cell phone use in the United States. In
2013, Tablet sales exploded and the tablet is
poised to out sell the personal computer in 2014.
It will take a long time for corporate and
government to catch up, but they are both
already in the mobile space. Where do jaws,
Window-eyes, and even NVDA fit in to the 5 year
trend of the over all market? Especially with
IPhone and android being very high quality
accessibility choices and new accessibility
features emerging on Blackberry to compete with
the other two leading mobile platforms.
Remember when windows 3.1 came along and people
started competing for access to windows? How
many market leading companies raced to add
accessibility features. Let's
see... henter-joice, gw michro, synthavoice
computers, artic, dolphin, AISquared... How many
of those companies, most of whom are still with
us, have competed for anything in the mobile
space? AISquared, codefactory, that's all I
can think of. Humanware and AFB have stepped
into the mobile space but their efforts have met with mixed success.
Very few of Our so called leaders in
accessibility are hungry for shares of the new
economy the way they were when windows 95 came
out and blind people could somewhat use it.
Could it be that there is no money or not as
much money as we think in the window-eyes for
office move and that it's part of an exit
strategy to keep as much value in the product
as possible for as long as possible? I'm sure
Dan and Doug have rock solid RRSPs/retirement
packages So do Eric and the other FS
bigwigs. These people aren't showing the drive
to innovate that they once did. They are in
fact, stodgy. What has GW done for us
lately? Proprietary desktop applications for
skype and facebook, both of which are much more
accessible in the mobile space to begin with
and both of which are better suited to the
mobile space than the desktop space IMHO. It's
GW's attempt to coast through for another
couple of years until the pc space evaporates and the heads can retire.
All speculation on my part. I
loved window-eyes when it was on the cutting
edge. I just don't see it now though.
Best,
Erik Burggraaf
Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
or on the web at
<http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/>http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
On 2014-01-20, at 5:45 PM, "Christina C."
<<mailto:blindmaclo...@gmail.com>blindmaclo...@gmail.com> wrote:
I do not understand all of the ins and outs of
this but overall it appears to be a positive
thing for blind and visually impaired as well
as for others with various disabilities and
challenges requiring adaptive software and
equipment. I did crack up at the line about
being leaders. LOL! They are behind the ball if
you ask me. I love apple and my mac and that is
where my loyalties are at this point. I do
think this opens doors and that can always be a
good thing. Maybe this will benefit me in some
way in the future especially since I'd like the
ability to use a robust OCR scanning software
with a camera instead of a traditional scanner.
Maybe one day I will consider putting windows
on my computer with boot camp or a virtual
environment. So, for me this topic is important
to discuss even though I am a mac user.
Christina
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