I have set up two aliases, but I know you had to really fiddle with it.  I'll 
take a look again and see if I can figure out the steps.


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On Feb 19, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Teresa Cochran <batsfly...@me.com> wrote:

> Ok, I admit that I'm stumped by this as well. I went to "add alias", sure it 
> was going to work. I even used VO-command-f4 to route the keyboard focus to 
> the edit field for the alias. Still, the buttons are dimmed. I apologize for 
> the misleading statements. I really was fooled that it would work. It's sort 
> of ok for me now, because I have an iCloud address and a me.com address, and 
> I'll just use my gmail and Yahoo for commercial stuff.
> 
> If anyone figures this out, I'd love to know how you did it. Otherwise, there 
> is some more accessibility work to be done.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
> Feynman
> 
> On Feb 19, 2014, at 4:16 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, that really seems to help! One question, though: I can't seem to 
>> create aliases, even now. Things go much better - I can see the different 
>> fields and the only unlabeled controls are the color button to assign to the 
>> label - but nothing happens when I click OK. The first alias I tried went 
>> away, and the name field was empty (that is the field where you enter the 
>> alias address). The second attempt, with a new alias, still has that alias 
>> in the field, but again, nothing happens. I don't see any error messages, 
>> warnings, or a message saying that it worked. Any clue what's going on? 
>> Thanks again for the interacting tip, that seems to make all the difference.
>> 
>> --
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Teresa Cochran <batsfly...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Basically, as have to interact with the mail frame. If you change anything 
>>> in there, you have to back out and interact again. So to get to 
>>> preferences, you have to go into the mailboxes area win the mail frame, 
>>> press the actions button, then go back into the frame and press the 
>>> preferences button. From there, go back into the frame and press the 
>>> accounts button, then the aliases, then add alias. This has been my 
>>> experience. It's far from ideal, but doable.
>>> 
>>> HtH,
>>> Teresa
>>>     
>>> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
>>> 
>>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 3:01 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Brian, I'm with you. I can't bring up the preferences at all anymore, and 
>>>> the one time I did, nothing was labeled. I just want to create an alias, 
>>>> but I can't because it is not accessible. I seem to be able to check mail, 
>>>> but beyond that, nothing works reliably with Voiceover.
>>>> 
>>>> --
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>>>> Alex
>>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 2:08 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hey Tim,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Again thanks for kicking me in the head to remove gmail from my computer 
>>>>> and migrating everything over to iCloud, as that part worked well, and 
>>>>> since completely removing my gmail account from the desktop my computer 
>>>>> is back to running much better, and mac mail isn't having any problems.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I had to use VO command shift space bar to actually enter anything in a 
>>>>> text field on iCloud, tabbing and shift tabbing did not take me in to the 
>>>>> text fields. Will have to check if I have that setting checked that you 
>>>>> mentioned as I thought I did.
>>>>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Brian,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In addition to what John mentioned, you could also use the tab-key to 
>>>>>> more easily move around the site then either press return or VO-space to 
>>>>>> activate an item.  One thing that I've always made sure that I've done 
>>>>>> is to check the box in the Advanced pane of Safari Prefs that tells the 
>>>>>> Mac to highlight items when pressing the tab-key.  The bonus to this 
>>>>>> action is that pressing Option-tab will take you directly to Edit 
>>>>>> fields.  This seems to make many problematic web-sites at least usable.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Later...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 12:07 AM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ok, so I am making the jump from gmail to iCloud. I was told I would 
>>>>>>> need to use the iCloud website to create my rules if I wanted the 
>>>>>>> messages to follow those rules across devices. First I had to reload 
>>>>>>> the iCloud website three times as VoiceOver wouldn't even allow me to 
>>>>>>> enter my Apple ID. I finally was able to enter text in to the Apple ID 
>>>>>>> box, and got in to the site which is unbelievably poorly designed to 
>>>>>>> work with VoiceOver. I think it might even be less user friendly than 
>>>>>>> gmail basic html site is. So I finally get to the filters or rules 
>>>>>>> forget what they are called, and sure enough the same exact thing that 
>>>>>>> happened at the log in screen is happening now where I can't enter text 
>>>>>>> to create a rule. It's not one of those thing where you can enter text 
>>>>>>> but VoiceOver won't read it, it just doesn't allow me to enter text, I 
>>>>>>> am even getting an error beep when I try to enter text. Anyone know of 
>>>>>>> any other way to create rules that will apply on multiple devices? The 
>>>>>>> only thing I can think of is having to create the same rule on 3 
>>>>>>> devices which is going to be a royal pain. Really amazing how poorly 
>>>>>>> the iCloud site works with VoiceOver.
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