You have to navigate to the, Done, button with any aspect of the iCloud site.


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On Feb 19, 2014, at 8:29 PM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:

> Hey all, try using VO command shift space bar on the text field where you 
> want to enter the alias, as using this command is the only way I can seem to 
> enter text in the rules edit fields. Although I created 8 rules last night 
> and they are all gone so not sure why they didn't save. 
> On Feb 19, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Teresa Cochran <batsfly...@me.com> wrote:
> 
>> Ok, I admit that I'm stumped by this as well. I went to "add alias", sure it 
>> was going to work. I even used VO-command-f4 to route the keyboard focus to 
>> the edit field for the alias. Still, the buttons are dimmed. I apologize for 
>> the misleading statements. I really was fooled that it would work. It's sort 
>> of ok for me now, because I have an iCloud address and a me.com address, and 
>> I'll just use my gmail and Yahoo for commercial stuff.
>> 
>> If anyone figures this out, I'd love to know how you did it. Otherwise, 
>> there is some more accessibility work to be done.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
>> Feynman
>> 
>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 4:16 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks, that really seems to help! One question, though: I can't seem to 
>>> create aliases, even now. Things go much better - I can see the different 
>>> fields and the only unlabeled controls are the color button to assign to 
>>> the label - but nothing happens when I click OK. The first alias I tried 
>>> went away, and the name field was empty (that is the field where you enter 
>>> the alias address). The second attempt, with a new alias, still has that 
>>> alias in the field, but again, nothing happens. I don't see any error 
>>> messages, warnings, or a message saying that it worked. Any clue what's 
>>> going on? Thanks again for the interacting tip, that seems to make all the 
>>> difference.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex
>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Teresa Cochran <batsfly...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Basically, as have to interact with the mail frame. If you change anything 
>>>> in there, you have to back out and interact again. So to get to 
>>>> preferences, you have to go into the mailboxes area win the mail frame, 
>>>> press the actions button, then go back into the frame and press the 
>>>> preferences button. From there, go back into the frame and press the 
>>>> accounts button, then the aliases, then add alias. This has been my 
>>>> experience. It's far from ideal, but doable.
>>>> 
>>>> HtH,
>>>> Teresa
>>>>    
>>>> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 3:01 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Brian, I'm with you. I can't bring up the preferences at all anymore, and 
>>>>> the one time I did, nothing was labeled. I just want to create an alias, 
>>>>> but I can't because it is not accessible. I seem to be able to check 
>>>>> mail, but beyond that, nothing works reliably with Voiceover.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>> Alex
>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 2:08 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey Tim,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Again thanks for kicking me in the head to remove gmail from my computer 
>>>>>> and migrating everything over to iCloud, as that part worked well, and 
>>>>>> since completely removing my gmail account from the desktop my computer 
>>>>>> is back to running much better, and mac mail isn't having any problems.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I had to use VO command shift space bar to actually enter anything in a 
>>>>>> text field on iCloud, tabbing and shift tabbing did not take me in to 
>>>>>> the text fields. Will have to check if I have that setting checked that 
>>>>>> you mentioned as I thought I did.
>>>>>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Brian,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In addition to what John mentioned, you could also use the tab-key to 
>>>>>>> more easily move around the site then either press return or VO-space 
>>>>>>> to activate an item.  One thing that I've always made sure that I've 
>>>>>>> done is to check the box in the Advanced pane of Safari Prefs that 
>>>>>>> tells the Mac to highlight items when pressing the tab-key.  The bonus 
>>>>>>> to this action is that pressing Option-tab will take you directly to 
>>>>>>> Edit fields.  This seems to make many problematic web-sites at least 
>>>>>>> usable.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Later...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 12:07 AM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ok, so I am making the jump from gmail to iCloud. I was told I would 
>>>>>>>> need to use the iCloud website to create my rules if I wanted the 
>>>>>>>> messages to follow those rules across devices. First I had to reload 
>>>>>>>> the iCloud website three times as VoiceOver wouldn't even allow me to 
>>>>>>>> enter my Apple ID. I finally was able to enter text in to the Apple ID 
>>>>>>>> box, and got in to the site which is unbelievably poorly designed to 
>>>>>>>> work with VoiceOver. I think it might even be less user friendly than 
>>>>>>>> gmail basic html site is. So I finally get to the filters or rules 
>>>>>>>> forget what they are called, and sure enough the same exact thing that 
>>>>>>>> happened at the log in screen is happening now where I can't enter 
>>>>>>>> text to create a rule. It's not one of those thing where you can enter 
>>>>>>>> text but VoiceOver won't read it, it just doesn't allow me to enter 
>>>>>>>> text, I am even getting an error beep when I try to enter text. Anyone 
>>>>>>>> know of any other way to create rules that will apply on multiple 
>>>>>>>> devices? The only thing I can think of is having to create the same 
>>>>>>>> rule on 3 devices which is going to be a royal pain. Really amazing 
>>>>>>>> how poorly the iCloud site works with VoiceOver.
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