Hello,

It is interesting to see that a post initiated by me due to cycle reboot after upgrading has grew into such a big thread. It seems that this problem has been experienced by a lot of people and has annoyed them. This is true.

I absolutely agree that either using Application Manager or apt-get tool to upgrade the system must NOT brake it at any point. As for apt-get and consumers I believe that this command tool is pretty nice to use in a Debian like system and it is meant for end users as well as any graphical package manager.

Some notes on rd-mode see below...

Michael Flaig wrote:
Hi Sebastian,

you probably got me wrong on the first part ... I agree with you. Just wanted 
to point out that in my opinion there is no official support for xterm + 
apt-get with mistral. With application installer this problem doesn´t happen, 
because it doesn't update system packages only apps.

I also agree with you that maemo should be more debian-like and debian tools 
should work flawlessly...

What I know of this problem and fixes, so far...
1) the problem with upgrading a running maemo-launcher seems to be fixed in 
sardine
2) I have not read anything new of the gstreamer issue, which seem to cause 
these reboot cycles, too.
3) So far no information what this gstramer module which you need to remove does

You wrote that you didn´t enable rd mode: How did you apt-get then? I´m thought 
that apt-get is only available for root (sudo gainroot) and not for the user. 
becomeroot package? Do I miss anything?

Using apt-get needs root privileges, that is right. However, if you are using 'sudo gainroot' you might and should disable rd-mode after editing /usr/sbin/gainroot file (in order to get 'sudo gainroot' working later without rd-mode) as HOWTO proposed http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowDoiBecomeRoot

Myself I am using 'sudo su' (the easier way to get root access) and this is working ok for me http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowDoiBecomeRoot2

I've put the N770 in rd mode since IT2006 beta, so I could be wrong.

Oh and just a hint: I installed some packages from unofficial repos (but listed 
in the wiki) that seemed to have broken the dpkg status file on my 770. 
Quickest way to fix this was making backup and reflashing :-( .o(Note to 
myself: You need to verify this ...)

Cheers,

Michael


Cheers,
Andrey
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