I think that improving the booting time would be a big step in maemo. I've been using palm pdas for a long time and I miss the 0 seconds booting time.
Magnus, if I can help testing ask me. Cheers On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 3:26 AM, Ryan Pavlik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think it's worthwhile work to look into, because it does take a while > to boot up. True, I don't boot mine often either, but mostly because > I've heard (and experience bears out) that on the devices 1 boot = ~3-5 > days of standby/sleep. My thinking is perhaps if boot is faster, a) > less power is needed and b) sophisticated PM can be brought up perhaps > sooner (this is completely out of my realm though), besides the obvious > effect of faster boot. > > (Probably the fact the device seems to have 3 separate splash screens > then boots to a not-yet-functional desktop exacerbates the feeling of a > slow boot.) > > Good luck! I might suggest trying the VMWare Maemo SDK - for me it was > way easier to get working than a direct install of the Scratchbox > environment, but of course YMMV. > > Ryan > > Magnus Deininger wrote: > > Well, true that but it sure can be an annoyance if your battery runs > > out and the first thing you notice is that the device is having you > > wait a couple of minutes. And the way I see it, if your device boots > > fast enough, you could just as well shut it down completely instead of > > putting it into stand-by mode, thus essentially giving you unlimited > > stand-by time. > > > > On the bright side, if if bootup times aren't too much of a concern > > for most users, einit also provides for a centralised hardware event > > handler and allows the actions to this to have very little overhead by > > being able to write handlers in C or anything else that compiles to an > > ELF object file. It also has service supervision and provides for > > backup plans if something won't start, which tend to come in handy a > > lot on embedded devices. > > > > -- Magnus > > > > Quoting Frank Banul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> No offence but I would guess most people don't boot their devices > >> very often. It would be nice to have faster boot times but I rarely > >> boot my device. Just an opinion. I hope it's helpful. > >> > >> Frank > >> > >> ----- Original message ----- > >> Hi there, > >> > >> I'm Magnus Deininger, aka jyujin, head of the eINIT project, a~nd I'd > >> like help the maemo project by improving bootup times. One of my > >> friends is telling me that maemo devices are booting 'unbearably slow' > >> and that this would be quite the complaint with customers; he's going > >> so far as to offer his Nokia 770 for the cause if i can make it boot > >> faster. > >> > >> My pet project (eINIT, http://einit.org) is currently doing reasonably > >> well at making computers boot faster, but we haven't tried to make it > >> work on too many embedded devices just yet, mostly because we're a bit > >> tight on devs and time... and people that would be interested in > >> seeing it on their embedded device. We're still doing quite the > >> progress in boot times tho, as could be seen by this little video > >> (taken by that friend of mine who'd like to see his nokia 770 boot > >> faster): > >> http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2744120711983143659 . > >> That's booting fairly fast, especially considering it boots right into > >> compiz... I also made this bootchart: http://omploader.org/vZHdj -- > >> which is on my main desktop, without any real optimisations. Both > >> boxes (the one in the video, and mine) used to boot in about 1 to 1:20 > >> minutes before, so that's /quite/ an improvement right there. > >> > >> Now seeing as my friend has some issues with his device, I'd like to > >> help him, and the maemo project, but since I'm a bit tight on time, > >> I'd first like to know if anyone else is actually interested in me > >> porting eINIT to maemo, since I'd hate setting up a devel environment > >> for a single device ;). Which brings me to why I'm posting on this ML > >> in the first place: I'd like to know if people /are/ interested in > >> this or not. Just get right back at me if there's any interest. I'll > >> monitor this ML for the time being, and I'd also like to invite any > >> interested developers to join our IRC channel, #einit on freenode. > >> > >> So, that concludes my offer I think. > >> > >> Greets, and happy hacking, > >> Magnus Deininger > >> http://einit.org/ > >> IRC: jyujin on freenode; #einit > >> > >> PS.: Oh, not to forget, eINIT is BSD-licenced, so there shouldn't be > >> any weird licencing issues from a business POV either, if that would > >> ever be an issue. > >> > >> > > > -- > Ryan Pavlik > www.cleardefinition.com > > #282 + (442) - [X] > A programmer started to cuss > Because getting to sleep was a fuss > As he lay there in bed > Looping 'round in his head > was: while(!asleep()) sheep++; > > _______________________________________________ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers >
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