Sorry, I meant OS2008, not OS2007 :) On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Aniello Del Sorbo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I remember starting a thread last year on the ITT forum (that'd be > InternetTabletTalk.org forum) asking > people for how long they kept their tablet on before rebooting. > The answers could help understand if it's worth it or not spending time on > improving the tablet's boot time. > Consider, also, that OS2007 sped up it's boot time quite a lot since > previous OS versions. > > The thread is located here: > > http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6889 > > -- > anidel > > > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 12:27 AM, Jose Antonio Vacas Martinez < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think that improving the booting time would be a big step in maemo. > > I've been using palm pdas for a long time and I miss the 0 seconds > > booting time. > > > > Magnus, if I can help testing ask me. > > > > Cheers > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 3:26 AM, Ryan Pavlik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I think it's worthwhile work to look into, because it does take a > > > while > > > to boot up. True, I don't boot mine often either, but mostly because > > > I've heard (and experience bears out) that on the devices 1 boot = > > > ~3-5 > > > days of standby/sleep. My thinking is perhaps if boot is faster, a) > > > less power is needed and b) sophisticated PM can be brought up perhaps > > > sooner (this is completely out of my realm though), besides the > > > obvious > > > effect of faster boot. > > > > > > (Probably the fact the device seems to have 3 separate splash screens > > > then boots to a not-yet-functional desktop exacerbates the feeling of > > > a > > > slow boot.) > > > > > > Good luck! I might suggest trying the VMWare Maemo SDK - for me it > > > was > > > way easier to get working than a direct install of the Scratchbox > > > environment, but of course YMMV. > > > > > > Ryan > > > > > > Magnus Deininger wrote: > > > > Well, true that but it sure can be an annoyance if your battery runs > > > > out and the first thing you notice is that the device is having you > > > > wait a couple of minutes. And the way I see it, if your device boots > > > > fast enough, you could just as well shut it down completely instead > > > of > > > > putting it into stand-by mode, thus essentially giving you unlimited > > > > stand-by time. > > > > > > > > On the bright side, if if bootup times aren't too much of a concern > > > > for most users, einit also provides for a centralised hardware event > > > > handler and allows the actions to this to have very little overhead > > > by > > > > being able to write handlers in C or anything else that compiles to > > > an > > > > ELF object file. It also has service supervision and provides for > > > > backup plans if something won't start, which tend to come in handy a > > > > lot on embedded devices. > > > > > > > > -- Magnus > > > > > > > > Quoting Frank Banul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi, > > > >> > > > >> No offence but I would guess most people don't boot their devices > > > >> very often. It would be nice to have faster boot times but I rarely > > > >> boot my device. Just an opinion. I hope it's helpful. > > > >> > > > >> Frank > > > >> > > > >> ----- Original message ----- > > > >> Hi there, > > > >> > > > >> I'm Magnus Deininger, aka jyujin, head of the eINIT project, a~nd > > > I'd > > > >> like help the maemo project by improving bootup times. One of my > > > >> friends is telling me that maemo devices are booting 'unbearably > > > slow' > > > >> and that this would be quite the complaint with customers; he's > > > going > > > >> so far as to offer his Nokia 770 for the cause if i can make it > > > boot > > > >> faster. > > > >> > > > >> My pet project (eINIT, http://einit.org) is currently doing > > > reasonably > > > >> well at making computers boot faster, but we haven't tried to make > > > it > > > >> work on too many embedded devices just yet, mostly because we're a > > > bit > > > >> tight on devs and time... and people that would be interested in > > > >> seeing it on their embedded device. We're still doing quite the > > > >> progress in boot times tho, as could be seen by this little video > > > >> (taken by that friend of mine who'd like to see his nokia 770 boot > > > >> faster): > > > >> http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2744120711983143659 . > > > >> That's booting fairly fast, especially considering it boots right > > > into > > > >> compiz... I also made this bootchart: http://omploader.org/vZHdj -- > > > >> which is on my main desktop, without any real optimisations. Both > > > >> boxes (the one in the video, and mine) used to boot in about 1 to > > > 1:20 > > > >> minutes before, so that's /quite/ an improvement right there. > > > >> > > > >> Now seeing as my friend has some issues with his device, I'd like > > > to > > > >> help him, and the maemo project, but since I'm a bit tight on time, > > > >> I'd first like to know if anyone else is actually interested in me > > > >> porting eINIT to maemo, since I'd hate setting up a devel > > > environment > > > >> for a single device ;). Which brings me to why I'm posting on this > > > ML > > > >> in the first place: I'd like to know if people /are/ interested in > > > >> this or not. Just get right back at me if there's any interest. > > > I'll > > > >> monitor this ML for the time being, and I'd also like to invite any > > > >> interested developers to join our IRC channel, #einit on freenode. > > > >> > > > >> So, that concludes my offer I think. > > > >> > > > >> Greets, and happy hacking, > > > >> Magnus Deininger > > > >> http://einit.org/ > > > >> IRC: jyujin on freenode; #einit > > > >> > > > >> PS.: Oh, not to forget, eINIT is BSD-licenced, so there shouldn't > > > be > > > >> any weird licencing issues from a business POV either, if that > > > would > > > >> ever be an issue. > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Ryan Pavlik > > > www.cleardefinition.com > > > > > > #282 + (442) - [X] > > > A programmer started to cuss > > > Because getting to sleep was a fuss > > > As he lay there in bed > > > Looping 'round in his head > > > was: while(!asleep()) sheep++; > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > maemo-developers mailing list > > > maemo-developers@maemo.org > > > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > maemo-developers mailing list > > maemo-developers@maemo.org > > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > > > > > > > -- > anidel -- anidel
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