Le jeudi 7 octobre 2010 11:20:04, Buchan Milne a écrit : > The fact that almost no-one on this list seems to have known about backports > at all doesn't mean that the backports feature is not useful, it may be that > it wasn't accessible enough to end users.
+1 > Now, maybe the user interface needs to be improved. For example, maybe there > should be no dropdown box, but instead when searching for a package by name, > it should show you all the versions: > > ============================================================================ > Find: | digikam | In: ->Graphical applications |By: ->Package Name > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Package| |Status | Action > +digikam |Security update recommended |Update | > - 1.3.0-1mdv |Installed |Uninstall | > - 1.3.0-1.1mdv |Security Update |Update | > - 1.4.0-4mdv |Unsupported upgrade (backport) |Upgrade | > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > digikam - A KDE ........ > > ============================================================================= +1 > > > Alternatively, maybe a "What's new" view? Oh yes, let's do it ! > > Maybe a rating/voting/popularity system should be available, however in the > past people had complained about privacy issues, which I think may have > resulted in little effort being put into completion of drakstats. > > So, maybe a web site should also be developed, which allows users to also > access package rating information, and which provides some kind of > installation feature. Yes this web site could : - allow package rating - show download stats (if possible) - show recent versions updates (with the highest rating packages more visible than an obscure lib :)) - allow backport / new package requests (I know, bugzilla used to be the place where you did that previously, but can't we find a way to link both). This way packagers would have more visibility on the user's needs. > I think one problem Mandriva had was that users refused to believe that: > -Mandriva was open > -Contributors could easily improve the distribution > -Mandriva probably already had most of what they wanted, and if it didn't, > they should do what they can do to help > > For example, many people complained about bugs that get no attention, but *1* > contributor managed to change that perception to some extent. However, if > more > people contributed, more bugs would actually be fixed. > > Mandriva the company may have been a barrier to contribution to some, and I > think one of the most important aspects of Mageia is ensuring that > contributors know exactly what happens to their contribution, and knowing > that > the financial state of a company does not impact the future availability of > the project to which they contributed. > OK, buchan, how do we start ? Shall we put improvements proposals (UI, website, ...) on the wiki, on http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=rollingdebate ? > > The problem is to make it *easier* for users to get new versions of software, > not to force everyone to upgrade constantly. +1 Samuel