On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:12 PM, Sean Owen wrote:

> Committer time is indeed scarce; nobody is suggesting forcing anyone
> to adhere to style. Objecting to others address this is another
> matter, and I must say I completely disagree with some thinking I'm
> hearing here.


I don't object to good style.  I object to sweeping changes that break a lot of 
patches.  Maybe not the case here, but it will be in the future and unless the 
whole thing is automated as part of committing (as Hadoop does), the code will 
always have formatting issues causing this exact same thing to happen.  I've 
lived it on Lucene for a lot of years and you can see the debate in the 
archives.

> I give up on it though. All I particularly care about is
> the static-initializer thing, and people not complaining about me
> doing small code cleanup.

I don't have a problem w/ small code cleanup, but that isn't the subject of 
this message.  I usually reformat the files affected when I commit.  IntelliJ 
even has this built into it's commit capabilities and I'm all for it.

> 
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Grant Ingersoll <gsing...@apache.org> wrote:
>> If ever there were a case of 
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson's_Law_of_Triviality, this is it.  
>> Committer time is a scarce resource.  Unless it's automated, the code will 
>> always drift out of format.  I'd rather be able to cleanly apply a patch 
>> than worry about a particular style being applied.  We can apply the styling 
>> when committing.
>> 
>> -Grant
>> 
>> 


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