At 8:54 AM -0500 2005-02-16, Tobias Eigen wrote:
I know all this - and I know you know it, and I know all Mailman geeks like us get it. The problem is with regular, every day people who are expecting (and really can be expected to expect) Yahoogroups type interfaces.
All I can say is that Mailman is a non-profit open source project, run by a group of people in whatever spare time they can manage to scrape together.
The Linux folks haven't cracked the ease-of-use aspects of their OS compared to Microsoft, not even for the companies that are spending large quantities of money to try to make that happen. We're a much, much smaller group, and although this is also a smaller target, I don't see us being likely to succeed in this area where the Linux folks have not.
If someone wanted to pay large sums of money to make an open source Yahoo! Groups-beating package, and pay people to work on that as their full-time job, we might be able to change this situation -- in time.
If people really need those kinds of features today, then they should be using Yahoo! Groups and not Mailman.
In the meanwhile, we do what we can, and we accept what donations of time, code, or money that is offered to us.
Has anybody considered having a usability expert look at the Mailman interfaces and redesign them so they make more sense from a user's point of view?
I don't know, but I would doubt it. For the official story, you'd have to ask Barry.
How easy is it to customize these pages? Are they perchance templatable?
The template facilities within Mailman are fairly limited, but I have not looked into whether they attempt to address these areas.
You can pretty much do all of that today. Go to the listinfo page and log in with your e-mail address and password.
Perhaps, but you can't do it "easily".
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