Adrian Bye wrote:
Sometimes the key developers are busy on other things (the recent security issues obviously screwed up their work schedules) and patches aren't immediately evaluated. You should give them more than just one day before you determine if your patch is appreciated and accepted etc.If someone wanted to pay large sums of money to make an open source Yahoo! Groups-beating package, and pay people to work on that as their full-time job, we might be able to change this situation -- in time.
We've previously had conversations about some Yahoo groups functionality which you said wasn't possible:
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.039.htp
Yesterday I contributed patches which enables Mailman to have this exact
functionality which we borrowed from Yahoo Groups. Yet I've seen no response
from you yet, and only one half dismissive response from another mailman
developer.
Right now, I would suggest being patient. I suggest you give it a week for Barry and the other key developers to to find the time to start looking at new code after they dig out from their present schedule overload caused by the recent security incident.Mailman CAN be as good - and better - than Yahoo Groups. It doesn't have to take lots of money and resources. Just being willing to accept our code a piece at a time, and encouraging those who contribute will go a long way towards getting there.
There may be some disagreement on the unsubscribe styff, but the header/footer
handling only benefits everyone. I certainly hope that the mailman team will be
responsive, and accept these patches and integrate them into the codebase. From
my side we'll do whatever it takes to make that happen. Just tell us what we
have to do.
I don't know what Brad's key focus is on this list, but I can share with you that *I* am not a developer in that I don't write code. My role here is that I help in a product management type role, helping prioritize, helping define, helping with documentation (FAQ entries etc.), enter feature requests, etc. And I help with the day-to-day management of the mailman -users and -dev mailing lists so that the key developers can focus their time on code instead of running the lists. Sometimes when we have list management related email threads it takes the key developers more than a week to chime in on something too....
jc
_______________________________________________ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org
Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
