Brad, Ok, I've went around the world with this one, so maybe a fresh start is in order. I'm sure everyone is getting tired of seeing these "Throttling output" messages, especially the ones that don't digest. The more I think about it, the less complex it really becomes, thanks to all of the replies. So here is what I'm thinking and if someone steps on any point, sobeit, and I'll just about give up on this one.
1. Set up a Mailman list in a normal fashion. 2. Disable the mailman executable from delivering the outgoing mail, but create them in the queue (sort of a sendmail queueonly option). I'm not sure this one is possible, and will kill the entire scheme if not. I see a lot of possible ways this can be done, but I'm not a python programmer yet, so I hope this is do-able. 3 Run a sendmail qrunner with the specific -q option along with the proper -OMaxQueueRunSize option. This would point to the normal mqueue directory, or wherever Mailman puts the output files. This is fairly tunable upon a few runs. The MAX_SMTP_RCPTS config, -q, and -O commandline options should be enough. 4. Let the dept. that set this up resolve the AOL/Verizon thing. The IT dept didn't have much 'request for input' on this one. 5. Move all of this to it's own server. Number 2 above is the killer, as I'm not sure if the sendmail alias/piped command would control this, an option in the Mailman configs, or what. But all of this doesn't require a milter, is common sendmail stuff, and a slight change in the way Mailman handles the outgoing files (or maybe not). No queuegroups necessary either. Don't know why it didn't hit me originally. Thanks, and maybe this will go away if anyone can tell me about #2. Steve ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp