Hi Steve, et al,
Awhile back I asked some questions about managing my Mailman list
such that it worked like it did back on Autoshare (an old Mac OS 9
listserver). I received some good advice, and have made some great
progress in attaining most of my goals. There were still some
unresolved issues, but I took a break to let others on the list
tackle their problems, and also to let myself digest (no pun
intended) the situation for awhile.
To recap, I have a mailing list of about 300 members. The reply-to
is currently customized to go to one of my personal email addresses
(versus the mailmon default address of <foo-l...@lists.sonic.net>).
When I receive the posts, I determine whether the post is appropriate
for the list, and if needed, edit out extraneous text (such as
excessive quoted material and/or excessive signature lines) as well
as profanity or classified information that doesn't belong on the
list. I then use Eudora's "redirect" function (keeps headers in
tact) to redirect the moderated post to foo-l...@lists.sonic.net.
The two outstanding issues are:
1. After I do the redirect to foo-l...@lists.sonic.net, the
listserver still sends the moderation email back to me, requiring me
to approve of the post (despite the fact that the envelope sender is
from the list owner/moderator). When the list traffic is slow, this
isn't a big issue, but when topics get hot, this becomes a major
headache (receive, read, modify, send, receive again, approve).
2. Replies to digest still automatically go to
foo-l...@lists.sonic.net instead of to the customized reply-to
address (and there does not appear to be any way to change that).
This becomes a mess because now I have a mix of non-moderated posts
and moderated posts in the same place, so I have to be careful about
which ones I approve.
DREAM SOLUTION:
I'm looking for a solution that would resolve both these issues. I
imagine a solution where I set the reply-to address to
foo-l...@lists.sonic.net, but somehow get the list to send those
posts to me intact unmodified (versus getting the Mailman generated
moderator emails with all the extraneous stuff and extra headers).
Then I perform any necessary modifications, and redirect to the list,
with the original heads intact, but have the list recognize the
envelope sender and therefore post to the list (rather than bounce
back to the moderator).
I don't know if the first part of this solution is possible.
However, I believe I've already received information that tells me
that the 2nd part is not possible because Mailman does not have a
"check the envelope sender first" option. Experimentation has shown
me that if I send a post to the list, and the FROM sender is not a
member, but the envelope sender the moderator (aka, me), it passes it
through to the list. However, if the FROM sender is a member (but
mod flag turned on), then Mailman holds the post for moderator
approval regardless of what the envelope sender is.
The FROM sender will always be a member of the list, and I want to
keep the FROM sender intact; hence, unless I'm the member posting, it
will always be held for moderation.
In one of the earlier replies, Steve suggested the following aliases:
foo-list: modera...@example.com
foo-list-moderated: | mailman post foo-list
This suggestion sounds a bit like the first part of my "dream"
solution above, where I let people post to the list address (instead
of the customized reply-to address). The alias would then route the
post directly to me rather than to Mailman. Putting aside, for now,
how I get this alias set up, I'm still stuck on how I would then get
the email posted to the mailing list (since if I send it to the list
address, it will just come back to me again). Perhaps that is where
the foo-list-moderated alias comes into play?
Taking a stab at it, I should ask my ISP to do the following:
1. Set an alias for foo-l...@lists.sonic.net to go to
modera...@example.com (my email).
2. Set an alias for foo-list-modera...@lists.sonic.net to go to "|
mailman post foo-list".
Then my steps for moderating the list would be:
Receive email at modera...@example.com (originally posted to
foo-l...@lists.sonic.net), perform edits as necessary, then redirect
the post to foo-list-modera...@lists.sonic.net (6 steps down to 3
steps).
I did a test email to foo-list-modera...@lists.sonic.net, and it was
returned as "no such user", so I'm guessing that I'm actually
creating a new email alias as part of this solution.
Does it sound like I understand the suggestion correctly? And if so,
is it the solution that you think I am after?
I just want to make sure I'm on the right track before I start poking
my ISP for help.
THANKS!!
Bill
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