On 3/31/18 6:55 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
On Sat, 2018-03-31 at 17:33 -0500, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
I've had to deal with Gmail's honey-potting before, and I can do it
again if necessary. I don't imagine that you've ever done commercial
email administration, Richard, or you might have something constructive
to say instead of just spewing admonitions to "do better".
And in any event, my original post was a FYI, mainly concerned with the
interaction between Google's Gmail policies and _any_ system which
munges headers to deal with DMARC, as MM does - combined with the fact
that a lot of spammers these days seem to be sending mail over From
addresses which publish a DMARC p=reject policy. This is a particular
nasty combination which can effectively neutralize Gmail's spam
blocking.

I'm not looking for advice from anyone on how to run FMP's mail system,
nor for admonitions to do a better job of spam blocking, so if that's
what you want to say, please email me personally because it's OT for
this list.

If anyone has insights into this issue that _don't_ relate to FMP's
email service, or which constitute constructive insights based on
knowledge and experience, I'd love to hear them. Otherwise, please just
leave it!

I see the issue as largely not as big of an issue for most mailing list than a more generic mail forwarding system. I suspect most mailing lists are setup for only subscribers posting, which cuts out a lot of the spam issues, and many of those also it is preferred to reply to list instead of poster so the munged from isn't as important.

I suspect the major use of non-subscriber lists would be support lists where the subscribers are the support team, so more able to handle the technical challenges of dealing with the spam issues.

For a mailing list, because reply-all is more often used, it make differentiated munged From's (if needed), you likely want to plus-hack the From line (listname+sender@listdomain), though that might also create duplicate posts.

--
Richard Damon

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