Thanks Gary, I completely understand the design decisions behind MailMate, and Google's strange not-quite-IMAP implementation. The reality though is that Gmail (and GIMAP) actually work *really* well, and recent comments made me wonder if there was more label-compatibility coming in MM.
On 16 May 2014 at 8:13:44 pm, Gary Hull (yh82d7...@yandex.com) wrote: > My impression is that MailMate doesn't deal well with Gmail by design, > and there's no plan to natively support Gmail. MailMate is a > standards-based e-mail client that follows the various IMAP RFCs. Gmail > uses an undocumented proprietary fork/hack of IMAP ("GIMAP"). There's > only one developer for MailMate, and he has to prioritize. In addition, > Google could change things at any time and break MailMate, and given the > rumors that the results of the Sparrow acquisition are about to bear > fruit, it seems like it's in Google's interest to "encourage" Gmail > users to migrate to Google's own PC-side client, rather than use other > clients, so if, oops!, stuff "accidentally" starts to break in other > clients that try to support GIMAP, hey, that's the way the cookie > crumbles. > > However, in the MailMate documentation there are hacks given for those > who must use Gmail, the first of which is "Don't use labels," the second > of which is "If you do you use labels use one and only one label for > every each and every e-mail," and the third of which is "If you must use > labels as tags and put more than one on each e-mail, get used to a lot > of duplicated e-mails, because GIMAP presents labels as separate folders > to connecting IMAP clients." > > On 16 May 2014, at 16:28, Alasdair Muckart wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > For various reasons I've had to migrate all of my email out of the > > 'normal' (courier) IMAP server I was using over to Google (apps for > > business). > > > > The current documentation seems to indicate that MM still doesn't deal > > too well with Gmail and labels, and with my current setup I really > > need the labels in Gmail. > > > > For the moment I'm using Airmail which is nice and fast and seems to > > handle gmails quirks Ok, but doesn't locally cache mail and is having > > some issues actually finding all 270-odd thousand messages I have. > > > > I'd very much like to keep using MailMate, so I'm interested in what > > the options are for setting it up with Gmail in a way that'll allow me > > to keep my label setup. > > > > Thanks. > > -- > > Alasdair Muckart | William de Wyke | http://wherearetheelves.net > > "There is hardly anything in the world that some man cannot make a > > little worse > > and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price only are > > this man's > > lawful prey." - John Ruskin, 1819-1900. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mailmate mailing list > > mailmate@lists.freron.com > > http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > _______________________________________________ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > -- Alasdair Muckart | William de Wyke | http://wherearetheelves.net "There is hardly anything in the world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price only are this man's lawful prey." - John Ruskin, 1819-1900. _______________________________________________ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate